*** COACHING SEARCH THREAD: Sunday, June 7 ***

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If you read between the lines, my question is about a raise. Answer the question - would you demand less than $2M, the salary of the last head coach, if you were making $1.25M currently at another, similar job?

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How are not understanding this?

If we are talking about the same thing, your question would be:

Would you demand less than $3.25M, $2 million higher than your previous salary, if you were making $1.25M currently at another, similar job?

Or "Would you take $2.75 million if you were making $1.25M currently at another, similar job?"

Of course you would.
 
Give me an example of a team that's had an opening as good as we have for next year, in June?

If I am a coach of a P5 team that is good enough to take the ISU job, my current team must be pretty good also. Why leave something I built that I know I can make win for something else?
 
Why are you asking this? Can you show me a post making that argument? This is an obvious strawman.

We're talking about percentages here for raises. It's not a straw man. It's a legitimate question. If you knew the salary of the guy you were replacing, would you demand less money than he was making just because you felt like it was too big of a raise?
 
First, how good is the job? First round exit good? Coaches don't think in teams, they think in terms of programs. A nice team next year that should make the tournament, but this is a major challenge. Plus following Hoiberg.

take out June if you would like and look at late spring. Most openings late are probably filled internally or with interim tags. Not many coaches wait as long as Hoiberg did to leave.

Oh ******. Duke lost in the first round as a 3 seed two years ago. NO WAY THEY'RE GONNA GO PAST THE FIRST ROUND THE YEAR AFTER, RIGHT?!?!
 
Completely theoretical question... If John Calipari was one of the candidates vying for the job (disregard what he's making and what we would pay him), would you want to hire him here at ISU?
 
If I am a coach of a P5 team that is good enough to take the ISU job, my current team must be pretty good also. Why leave something I built that I know I can make win for something else?

Which is why these guys have more room to get risky with what they want. If the school doesn't accept it, it's not like they're going to be unemployed. My friend did this with a job - he did it because he didn't think they'd actually accept what salary he wanted, but they did - and he doubled his salary right then and there.
 
Catching steam. here are Bomani Jones's thoughts:

Bomani Jones retweeted Jeff Goodman
oh? this could be great for both sides.
Bomani Jones added,
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPNIowa State interviewed several guys this weekend. One name that wasn't mentioned who interviewed, per source: NC Central's LeVelle Moton.




 
We're talking about percentages here for raises. It's not a straw man. It's a legitimate question. If you knew the salary of the guy you were replacing, would you demand less money than he was making just because you felt like it was too big of a raise?

So lay out who is getting what raise in your scenario.

I say hypothetically it's Jay Wright.

He makes $2.7 million right now and he's the hypothetical $4 million guy.

He isn't going to take that raise because it's only a raise of 50% of his salary? Even though it would make him the 4th highest paid coach in the country?

Is that what you're saying?

That's insane.
 
Exactly, we don't even have half the money. So I'd expect we aren't giving out raises to coaches bigger than that to coaches much worse than that with a better roster.
We don't have half the money, and we don't have half the allure.

Nevertheless, Smart is a perfect example of what I am suggesting. He was getting 1.8 million at a non-P5 and not on that list. Yet, you damn well better believe he would have people excited and we would double his pay (within that $3 to $4 million range)...and that it would be needed to get him to move.

A guy at Michigan is not moving just for 500k, probably not even 1 million. I could be wrong, but I am guessing there is a reason Jeremy liked my initial comment saying you should look outside that list.
 
Completely theoretical question... If John Calipari was one of the candidates vying for the job (disregard what he's making and what we would pay him), would you want to hire him here at ISU?

No.

It would mean NCAA sanctions in 5-6 years. And if the NCAA would make sure that they stuck against ISU.
 
I think the Big12 is Attractive

If I'm a basketbal coach I would find the Big12 very attractive compared to some of the mega conferences. I'd rather play a schedule where I play every other team home and road. In the mega conferences winning a conference title can be more about who you don't play twice and do you play your competition at home or on the road. Plus it seems easy to get lost in the numbers, when there are 14 teams in aconference.

If I were a betting man, I ould guess Belein, Dixson or Gottfried could be the big names. With the state of the Big East, wouldn't surprise me to see Jay Wright coaching elsewhere in the next couple years.

The other possibility is abig paycheck might give a Chris Mack, Archie Miller or Jeff Hornacek a reason to jump ship. It't interesting the Hornacek buzz completely went quiet after Chris' story last Monday. Seems a bit strange to me.
 
So lay out who is getting what raise in your scenario.

I say hypothetically it's Jay Wright.

He makes $2.7 million right now and he's the hypothetical $4 million guy.

He isn't going to take that raise because it's only a raise of 50% of his salary? Even though it would make him the 4th highest paid coach in the country?

Is that what you're saying?

That's insane.

You obviously don't understand what I'm saying. All I said was that these guys with comfortable jobs at P5 schools and already have a track record of success have more room to ******** a price that's higher than their current salary by a lot because if the other side of the negotiations says no, they still have their jobs still making a good salary. That's what I said from the beginning - they know they can demand higher than their current salaries and by more than just a few hundred thousand dollars.
 
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