Bothers me the most

What bothers me the most is ISU didn't offer him 5 million per year. Than we can talk about Coach K esqu. I'd of done the same. It's just how this all works. Maybe it could've been handled better. But it wasnt. Move on.

When asked if ISU had made an offer to keep him, Fred said he wouldn't let them offer. Good for him - he made up his mind and he wasn't going to make Jamie/ISU grovel when it wasn't about the money and it wouldn't do any good. That would be a great ego trip, but not Fred's style.
 
What bothers me most is actually ME believing the speech Hoiberg gave about hanging the National Championship banner inside Hilton, recruiting all those Serbians, etc. Blah, blah, blah......
 
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A little off topic, but one of the few things I've enjoyed throughout the Fred-to-the-NBA process has been the Hawk fans coming out of the woodwork acting like kids on Christmas Eve, retweeting every Fred/Bulls tidbit with glee. Even saw a few of them say that now Iowa can get back to being the "premier" basketball program in the state. Anyone else think it'll be funny when ISU coach X beats them as regularly as Fred did?
 
A little off topic, but one of the few things I've enjoyed throughout the Fred-to-the-NBA process has been the Hawk fans coming out of the woodwork acting like kids on Christmas Eve, retweeting every Fred/Bulls tidbit with glee. Even saw a few of them say that now Iowa can get back to being the "premier" basketball program in the state. Anyone else think it'll be funny when ISU coach X beats them as regularly as Fred did?

They have been insufferable today. Kind of think my dog might be able to coach and beat Frannypants with the respective rosters this year.
 
Disappointed about how this whole thing has hurt recruiting the past few years. If Fred would have been committed to ISU CD may be on his way to campus. We may be set next year but after that the cupboard is bare.

"The cupboard is bare".....I would say more than bare I would say rock bottom last place empty...I hope the Great Otz can recruit...............Otherwise its MCDoormatLand for the 2nd time....lol
 
"The cupboard is bare".....I would say more than bare I would say rock bottom last place empty...I hope the Great Otz can recruit...............Otherwise its MCDoormatLand for the 2nd time....lol

If Monte is here for his SR year with MT, Deonte, Cooke and NN then that's just ridiculous.
 
What bothers me the most is the way we heard about all of this and how long it took. I am not sure how I could have expected different in this day and age. I knew Fred was going to go the NBA at some point, I guess I just expected it to be a cleaner and more transparent break instead of this cloak and dagger method he has put us through. I am starting to think this was starting to go down last season and may be one of the reasons our players were quitting on him.


- The bulls still had a coach and no open position when the rumors started. Fred didn't create the cloak and dagger method. He was caught in the circumstances.
- Does it occur to anyone that he was probably under a non-disclosure and could not say anything? How transparent has anyone on this board been when interviewing for a new job?
- Do we really blame him for not saying anything to the team? What if nothing came to fruition? On the other hand, Diallo was ready to commit to a team for four years. I am surprised Fred said what he did, but props to him for being honest.

What bothers me the most is people throwing Fred Hoiberg under the bus for pursuing his dream. He structured his contract from the beginning so that he could easily exit to the NBA, and Pollard agreed to it. You don't negotiate that if your intentions are to stay forever, and that was public information from day one. He is a hot commodity today, but may not be in one or three or five years. Wonder how many NFL teams call on Ferentz these days?

At the end of the day, he provided the fans with five exciting years of basketball. What more could we ask?
 
What bothers me most is that guys like Hoiberg, Sanderson and Gable, our golden boys, used ISU as a stepping stone job. It happens, I know. Just wish a coach who has a little success here would want to stay here ... not use us. I guess McCarney fit that mold, but he was fired.

Gable only had one college coaching job. Iowa. He took that job opening because Harold Nichols wasn't ready to retire. He didn't use ISU as a stepping stone job.
 
To be fair, it's collegiate wrestling. What's the next step up?

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True, that includes the opportunity to walk into a good coaching situation in the NBA.

Walking into an aging roster with a meddling front office, and a fanbase who thinks the only reason you're there is because you're the only guy they could hire, isn't exactly a good opportunity.
 
What bothers me the most...the discussion will start going back to how great the football should be this year.

The process by which this all happened wasn't exactly great, but I was thinking today that I'm actually glad there was a lot of 'smoke' early. It gave time to process the idea of Hoiberg actually making the jump, and now that it's happened, it's not so bad.

I mean, I couldn't even say 'Hi' to anyone today because it sounded too much like 'Hoi' and would sob for roughly 5-10 minutes at a time, but otherwise, no problems. :P
 
What bothers me most is that guys like Hoiberg, Sanderson and Gable, our golden boys, used ISU as a stepping stone job. It happens, I know. Just wish a coach who has a little success here would want to stay here ... not use us. I guess McCarney fit that mold, but he was fired.
Rhoads wants to stay.
 
What bothers me most is when people say he doesn't owe anything to ISU or the fans.

He would still be an assistant somewhere if Jamie hadn't taken a chance on him. The "love affair" with the fans is a big reason he was written about so much. The atmosphere (fans) are what brought all the prime time games to Hilton and a big reason they were unbeatable at home.

He did his part by winning. But without ISU and the fans none of that would have been possible. I'm not saying he needed to stay here his entire career. He just needed to accomplish ONE of the team goals before moving onto his own.

He didn't accomplish any of the team goals? What were they?
 

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