Vikings RB Adrian Peterson indicted on Child Injury charge

So would this fall under the league's new domestic abuse policy? Typically we hear domestic abuse as spouse, but wouldn't that apply to any family member? It seems like this is a way for the league to make a quick stance and figure out the details later.

As far as the details. I agree that we should not accept in today's society, but it wasn't too long ago that using a switch was an accepted practice in this country. I guess that I can see some legitimacy in his defense that this is how he was raised so this is what he knows. I think that if he gets counseling I can see him recover from this.


from reading his quotes, it doesn't seem like he was being malicious or thought he was in the wrong. It really does sound like that's the way he was raised and assumed it would be fine. Honestly, if they hadn't already had a dr. appointment scheduled, I don't think we ever hear about this. But that doesn't change the fact that you should have the common sense to recognize that you shouldn't be wailing on a 4 year old (or any kid) with a tree branch.
 
That logic makes zero sense. A kid isn't going to develop a fear of trees if Daddy beats the hell out of him with a branch - he knows Daddy was wielding it.
I wouldn't say "zero" sense.
It's kind of like an animal trainer or herder who uses a whip. While the trainer may sometimes actually whip the animal, they usually only use the whip to create that Pop/Crack sound. The animal responds to that crack/pop because of how loud it is and the fear of pain from knowing what it does so they move away from it. They fear the whip, not the trainer.

I realize I am comparing a little boy to an animal and the situation isn't the same, but I can see the point he was trying to make.
 
I wouldn't say "zero" sense.
It's kind of like an animal trainer or herder who uses a whip. While the trainer may sometimes actually whip the animal, they usually only use the whip to create that Pop/Crack sound. The animal responds to that crack/pop because of how loud it is and the fear of pain from knowing what it does so they move away from it. They fear the whip, not the trainer.

I realize I am comparing a little boy to an animal and the situation isn't the same, but I can see the point he was trying to make.

I understand the purported logic behind it, but it doesn't account for the fact that kids are smart. They know if it is Dad vs Mom doing the whipping, etc. They know the whip isn't acting on its own, and I doubt they avoid the item if it is just leaning against a wall with the parent gone.
 
When I was a kid, I was really good friends with my neighbor. Basically brothers. When we were at his house and we did something to **** his dad off, and we did so A LOT, his dad would take out one of his belts, fold it in half with a hand on each end of it. He would bring his hands together so the belt would fold up and down, then pull out real hard. The belt would make a really loud "SNAP!" sound.

His dad never "used" the belt on me, and I never saw him use it on his son, but when we heard that SNAP!, we sure as hell knew we had crossed the line, and we got the **** out of there.

I loved his dad like a second father growing up, but I was scared to death of that belt.

Fear the implement, not the parent.

I wouldn't say "zero" sense.
It's kind of like an animal trainer or herder who uses a whip. While the trainer may sometimes actually whip the animal, they usually only use the whip to create that Pop/Crack sound. The animal responds to that crack/pop because of how loud it is and the fear of pain from knowing what it does so they move away from it. They fear the whip, not the trainer.

I realize I am comparing a little boy to an animal and the situation isn't the same, but I can see the point he was trying to make.

Correct. I was only ever afraid of my babysitter when she got out the wooden spoon that she'd beat my *** with when I misbehaved, just like my dog is afraid of his shock collar, not me.
 
I understand the purported logic behind it, but it doesn't account for the fact that kids are smart. They know if it is Dad vs Mom doing the whipping, etc. They know the whip isn't acting on its own, and I doubt they avoid the item if it is just leaning against a wall with the parent gone.
Well.... Let's not group all kids in the smart category just yet. I know quite a few who I'm fairly certain are missing half of their brain (usually the half that accounts for common sense). :twitcy:
 
I understand the purported logic behind it, but it doesn't account for the fact that kids are smart. They know if it is Dad vs Mom doing the whipping, etc. They know the whip isn't acting on its own, and I doubt they avoid the item if it is just leaning against a wall with the parent gone.


It's not so much that side, Angie, it's the other side...that if mom or dad hit with their hands, they always have the hands with them, well unless they're an amputee or something, so the child may develop an always fear of them. If an implement is used, they are fine with the parent unless they have the implement.


I'm not a fan of using implements, and I think physical punishment should be very rare, but that's the logic.
 
I got spanked a bunch as a kid (yes, I usually deserved it) and I was "afraid" of my dad until I realized what he was doing, and how I can avoid it.
 
AP's lawyer response:

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The apparent logic here is that he was just doing as his felon dad to him as a boy. Gotta the lawyer talk.
 
People these days...When I was younger, the parents were all about using a yard stick. Looking back, those suckers could lay down the smack in a short swing motion.
 
Your parents drew blood from you during punishment? Don't care where you're from - that isn't right.

Please don't ever treat your children like that.

Yeah...I do agree with this, as most do (at least I hope). I got some pretty good floggings as a kid, but my parents never drew blood. Now, we kids? To one another? That was a different story. That **** was Thunder Dome.
 
I was also a rarely spanked child and do not have an issue with a timely, warranted spank on the bottom. But if you are leaving marks on the child, you are doing it wrong. Drawing blood? Yeah, he used it like a ******* whip.

My mom actually made it a point a few years ago to apologize to me for the few times she slapped me across the face (all of which I beyond deserved for the way I would talk to her). She got mad at me when I told her she had no reason to apologize and actually thanked her for not making me a softie.

He pretty much broke his own collarbone.

Pretty much? He completely did it on his own, unless you credit ISU's defense for letting him score the TD in which he decided to do a flip.
 

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