Iowa may be the easiest win on the schedule.

"It's not the coach that I hate or the players; it's Iowa State," Vandervelde said at the time. "It's the entity that they are. It's the whole rivalry. I was raised an Iowa kid, and no matter what happens, I'm probably always going to hate Iowa State no matter who they're playing and who their coach is."

"It's a big deal for our team," he added. "I know a lot of people like to think it's kind of a bigger deal for (the Cyclones), but we have quotes up all over place. It's a statement game for them ... But we've got a statement to make, too."

http://qctimes.com/sports/college/b...cle_c97cd856-bc97-11df-98e2-001cc4c002e0.html

Julian Vandervelde seemed to be pretty fired up about the game when he played. His comment about having quotes up all over the place leads me to believe it was a pretty big deal to the rest of the team as well. The hawk coaches and players never seem to downplay the importance of this rivalry yet the fans act like they couldn't give a **** less. If it's just another game for the hawks, why do they run to the trophy looking all sorts of giddy when they win? The players care plenty about this game but a lot of the fans have some weird elitist mentality for whatever reason.

The fact is this is a huge game regardless of how good/bad either team is. If you live in Iowa, odds are you're either an Iowa State or iowa fan. Everybody looks forward to this game all year whether they want to admit it or not. Having to listen to the rival fans run their mouths for an entire year is almost unbearable for either fan base. This is a fun rivalry that everybody SHOULD be excited about. If you're not, Tony Moeaki thinks there's something wrong with you.

“Coming in as a freshman, it definitely was an eye opener,” Moeaki said. “It was pretty nuts.
“There’s something wrong with you if you’re not up for this one.”

http://globegazette.com/sports/spor...cle_3eaf50ec-6082-5db1-9385-8f1295196322.html


My response was to CyTwins, with some weird reverse psychology he's trying to display by saying it's now Iowa's Super Bowl.

I'm not saying the games not important to both sides , but obviously it's more important to Iowa State because they're not now and haven't been a competitor in their conference or in contention to play in a BCS game. .. Regarding your quotes, 2 players is a pretty small sample size but obviously the media wants to hype up the rivalry and when they get asked a question would you expect them to downplay it?

Again, it's still a rivalry game so it matters to both teams. BUT for the most part cyclone football seasons always end pretty disappointingly so this game provides a silver lining if they win...
 
My response was to CyTwins, with some weird reverse psychology he's trying to display by saying it's now Iowa's Super Bowl.

I'm not saying the games not important to both sides , but obviously it's more important to Iowa State because they're not now and haven't been a competitor in their conference or in contention to play in a BCS game. .. Regarding your quotes, 2 players is a pretty small sample size but obviously the media wants to hype up the rivalry and when they get asked a question would you expect them to downplay it?

Again, it's still a rivalry game so it matters to both teams. BUT for the most part cyclone football seasons always end pretty disappointingly so this game provides a silver lining if they win...

That doesn't even make sense. This game is more important to ISU and they focus so much on it but yet they're 7-2 the week following a victory in their last 9 wins against the mediocre Hawks. Iowa hangs up ISU posters for the game and my sources have told me Iowa started prepping for this week after the UNI game, hence why they looked terrible against Ball State
 
My response was to CyTwins, with some weird reverse psychology he's trying to display by saying it's now Iowa's Super Bowl.

I'm not saying the games not important to both sides , but obviously it's more important to Iowa State because they're not now and haven't been a competitor in their conference or in contention to play in a BCS game. .. Regarding your quotes, 2 players is a pretty small sample size but obviously the media wants to hype up the rivalry and when they get asked a question would you expect them to downplay it?

Again, it's still a rivalry game so it matters to both teams. BUT for the most part cyclone football seasons always end pretty disappointingly so this game provides a silver lining if they win...

Anybody who wanted to take the time could find plenty of quotes similar to Moeaki's but probably nothing quite like Vandervelde's :) The media definitely pushes the rivalry angle but if it was just another game, thats what I'd expect them to say. I do have to give you credit. Your response wasn't nearly as condescending as I expected.
 
That doesn't even make sense. This game is more important to ISU and they focus so much on it but yet they're 7-2 the week following a victory in their last 9 wins against the mediocre Hawks. Iowa hangs up ISU posters for the game and my sources have told me Iowa started prepping for this week after the UNI game, hence why they looked terrible against Ball State


It makes sense to any literate person. Not sure what the correlation is with ISU's record the following week after the Iowa game, but I'll play this game. ISU's seven wins were against the following teams:

Tulsa
Western Illinois
Connecticut
Kent State
Army
North Illinois
Troy

… Not sure what the point you were trying to make but a good argument certainly wasn't one. … I'm sure your 'sources' are reliable ones, and not made up at all.
 
It makes sense to any literate person. Not sure what the correlation is with ISU's record the following week after the Iowa game, but I'll play this game. ISU's seven wins were against the following teams:

Tulsa
Western Illinois
Connecticut
Kent State
Army
North Illinois
Troy

… Not sure what the point you were trying to make but a good argument certainly wasn't one. … I'm sure your 'sources' are reliable ones, and not made up at all.

I see 7 teams that have probably won the same amount of games as the Hawks have the last few years...a couple of them even play in a tougher conference than Iowa.
 
It makes sense to any literate person. Not sure what the correlation is with ISU's record the following week after the Iowa game, but I'll play this game. ISU's seven wins were against the following teams:

Tulsa
Western Illinois
Connecticut
Kent State
Army
North Illinois
Troy

… Not sure what the point you were trying to make but a good argument certainly wasn't one. … I'm sure your 'sources' are reliable ones, and not made up at all.
This whole Superbowl ******** has been debunked so many time and yet Hawk fans keep trotting it out. Almost every year since 98 the team that has won this game has gone on to have the better overall season. There have been a couple exceptions but pretty much every year the better team has won. Can we please stop with the Superbowl talk? Oh who am I kidding, this won't stop you from spinning it some other way.
 
I see 7 teams that have probably won the same amount of games as the Hawks have the last few years...a couple of them even play in a tougher conference than Iowa.

Since Iowa has won more games than Iowa State during that time, again, I'm not sure that's an argument you want to have.

How many of them have finished the season ranked in the top 10? Or by winning a BCS bowl game? You're like arguing with a little child, only you're less incompetent.
 
This whole Superbowl ******** has been debunked so many time and yet Hawk fans keep trotting it out. Almost every year since 98 the team that has won this game has gone on to have the better overall season. There have been a couple exceptions but pretty much every year the better team has won. Can we please stop with the Superbowl talk? Oh who am I kidding, this won't stop you from spinning it some other way.

That is because Zabble would say it all year long after Iowa lost the game. That was his excuse on why Iowa lost the game. Now Jon Miller carries that on. The media in this state is too lazy to do 15 mins of homework on this to tell the real story.
 
Since Iowa has won more games than Iowa State during that time, again, I'm not sure that's an argument you want to have.

How many of them have finished the season ranked in the top 10? Or by winning a BCS bowl game? You're like arguing with a little child, only you're less incompetent.


You are correct, Iowa has had some good seasons. The other side of that is in 9 of the last 25 years ISU has finished with a better record or similar season.
 
Since Iowa has won more games than Iowa State during that time, again, I'm not sure that's an argument you want to have.

How many of them have finished the season ranked in the top 10? Or by winning a BCS bowl game? You're like arguing with a little child, only you're less incompetent.

lol. Kirkwood CC education always kicks in at some point.
 
Since Iowa has won more games than Iowa State during that time, again, I'm not sure that's an argument you want to have.

How many of them have finished the season ranked in the top 10? Or by winning a BCS bowl game?
You're like arguing with a little child, only you're less incompetent.

How many times have you done that in the last 4 years? Did you ever get your patent approved for your time machine?

I have no problem admitting Iowa used to be good...they just aren't anymore. Now we're stuck playing a mediocre team from a horrible conference. Lose/lose situation for us beacuse if we win, great we beat a B1G team, if we lose we make the Big 12 look bad
 
You such a Dbag. I think you believe the stuff you write.

My response was to CyTwins, with some weird reverse psychology he's trying to display by saying it's now Iowa's Super Bowl.

I'm not saying the games not important to both sides , but obviously it's more important to Iowa State because they're not now and haven't been a competitor in their conference or in contention to play in a BCS game. .. Regarding your quotes, 2 players is a pretty small sample size but obviously the media wants to hype up the rivalry and when they get asked a question would you expect them to downplay it?

Again, it's still a rivalry game so it matters to both teams. BUT for the most part cyclone football seasons always end pretty disappointingly so this game provides a silver lining if they win...
 
Lighten up Francis. I mean #TavernHok is funny if you ask me. It is used to bust the chops of Hawk fans for the perceived short comings of the Hawk fan base. #SuperBowl is really no different, but coming from the Hawk fans base to bust the chops of the ISU fans perceived "lil brother" attitude.

Some need to really lighten up around here, both sides bust chops. Hawk fans and I will continue to use #SuperBowl, or #LilBrother, because some have no sense of humor and puff up like a peacock when they hear it.....and that make us laughy big time.
 
How many times have you done that in the last 4 years? Did you ever get your patent approved for your time machine?

I have no problem admitting Iowa used to be good...they just aren't anymore. Now we're stuck playing a mediocre team from a horrible conference. Lose/lose situation for us beacuse if we win, great we beat a B1G team, if we lose we make the Big 12 look bad

LOL....playing ISU brings down the SOS for everyone, even NDSU.
 
How many times have you done that in the last 4 years? Did you ever get your patent approved for your time machine?

I have no problem admitting Iowa used to be good...they just aren't anymore. Now we're stuck playing a mediocre team from a horrible conference. Lose/lose situation for us beacuse if we win, great we beat a B1G team, if we lose we make the Big 12 look bad

Even the Hok God Jon Miller admitted on a recent podcast he sees the BoneG becoming a conference on par (playing wise) to the MAC over the next few years if they aren't there already.
 
… Ummm… Children are incompetent, CyTwins is less so. Hope that's not an Iowa State education, because it wasn't that hard to figure out.

Were you trying to slag CyTwins off or were you praising him? I'm confused now. Thought this was some HOk-Clone smack talk I guess I was wrong. That's a lovely bonnet you're wearing.
 
How many times have you done that in the last 4 years? Did you ever get your patent approved for your time machine?

I have no problem admitting Iowa used to be good...they just aren't anymore. Now we're stuck playing a mediocre team from a horrible conference. Lose/lose situation for us beacuse if we win, great we beat a B1G team, if we lose we make the Big 12 look bad

Go back one more year why don't ya and we win a BCS bowl game and finish 7th in the country. When's the last time you can say that? … I won't expect a response because there isn't one.
 

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