***Official Other Bubble Teams Thread***
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The thing is overall the Big 10 is pretty good. They have a lot of teams that a better than average like Illinois, NW, Purdue and Minn. I'm not saying they are great teams, but they have much better resumes then OU, OSU, and ATM. So when those teams beat up on each other, the get quality wins out of them.
For example, Minnesota's conference wins are over Indiana (RPI=16) , Penn St (137), NW (36), Ill (42), & Neb (111). So they have 1 really good win and two solid wins. Sound familiar? We have KU (5) and then K-State (48) and Texas (53). Now I think we all would agree that we are better than Minn, but our resumes are similar. The difference is their wins over mid to lower level Big 10 teams looks better than our wins over mid to lower level Big 12 teams.
That's an important detail to consider. It's easy to overlook if you give it a surface-analysis. Also annoying when it's the case in "someone else's conference," and even more so when Iowa State could be battling for a spot vs. those same teams. However, actual criteria for inclusion, while certainly debatable, is what matters.
The final five at-large bids tend to come down to about a dozen contenders. Those teams frequently have a flawed, unimpressive body of work.
The bottom line for Minnesota is based on their remaining schedule I don't see too many wins in their near future. They also have 2 incredibly HORRIBLE losses to an Iowa team that ISU dominated. If it came down to ISU or Minnesota I think the committee is picking the Clones.
Hahahaah Nice. If we beat TAMU, our chances of making it stay alive. If we lose, hello NIT
This is also false. It would hurt our chances, no doubt. But we still have 2 games against Baylor, and games against KSU and Mizzou. Losing to ATM would hurt, but by no means kill our tourney chances. We still have lots of chances for really good wins.
This. Losing tomorrow would hurt, but all it would mean is we would need to pick up an upset on the road some where.
Exactly. It's as if some people on here have already penciled losses in for the K-State road game, the 2 games against Baylor, and the road game against Mizzou. I don't get it. Maybe some fans missed the Mizzou game when they were only ahead of the Clones by 3 points with 30 seconds left in that game.... Or they missed the Kansas game in Lawrence in which ISU led for 75% of that game and by double digits most of the time, or they missed the Kansas game in Ames when ISU beat the Jayhawks, etc....
I think this team has shown they have the ability to play with the best teams in the Big XII. Only a fool would count them out in any game they have remaining on the schedule.
