O.K. this is now the third time or so that I have heard this reference. What's the story with this?
What are your ISU Football W-L Expectations now?
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O.K. this is now the third time or so that I have heard this reference. What's the story with this?
Mine won't change at all. I've said all along that it isn't about wins and losses as much as seeing growth. Obviously the wins have got to come eventually, but I think Rhoads so far has proven he deserves $2 million a year. He has put a lot of excitement into the program. And now it's about growth.
I think first and foremost, I'd really like to see the elimination of 30 and 40 point blow outs. Every game should be competetive from here on out. Obviously we may not have the horses to win on a given day, but we shouldn't be swapping out our first stringers part way through the third quater.
then in the next 2-3 years, we need to start seeing some 8, maybe 9 win seasons. They don't have to all be that, but start peppering them in here and there. When you get to 8 and 9 wins, that's how that one big upset propells you to 10 wins and maybe another for 11 and bingo, Rhoads is a superstar. I'm not expecting 10 or 11 wins necessarily, just saying, without getting to 8 or 9, we can't get to 11.
In all honesty though, this is how I felt before the contract. Had he signed it or not, I've always said that he's going to have to get us over that hump that McCarney never did. I really don't care about wins and losses on a numbers level though. It's about keeping the excitement we have around the program right now and building on that. If he continues to build excitement and sell tickets and stay competetive in every game, the wins will be there. He coaches to win.
I think first and foremost, I'd really like to see the elimination of 30 and 40 point blow outs. Every game should be competetive from here on out. Obviously we may not have the horses to win on a given day, but we shouldn't be swapping out our first stringers part way through the third quater.
then in the next 2-3 years, we need to start seeing some 8, maybe 9 win seasons. They don't have to all be that, but start peppering them in here and there. When you get to 8 and 9 wins, that's how that one big upset propells you to 10 wins and maybe another for 11 and bingo, Rhoads is a superstar. I'm not expecting 10 or 11 wins necessarily, just saying, without getting to 8 or 9, we can't get to 11.
In all honesty though, this is how I felt before the contract. Had he signed it or not, I've always said that he's going to have to get us over that hump that McCarney never did. I really don't care about wins and losses on a numbers level though. It's about keeping the excitement we have around the program right now and building on that. If he continues to build excitement and sell tickets and stay competetive in every game, the wins will be there. He coaches to win.
Do a Google search for Kirk Ferentz Section 8 housing. It was one of his kids, I think Brian, who was involved.
So which fact is incorrect. CPR's assistants are paid more than him or KF's assistants make half (actually less) of him. If the above salary figures are correct.
I'd like two monkeys off our back. 1) Beat Bill Snyder (not Bill Snyder 90s and early 2000s, Bill Snyder 2010 onward) 2) Get 10 wins... you all realize we are one of a VERY VERY VERY few teams that do not have a 10 win season? Just one, don't care how, and I'll be happy. We can go 6-6 every other year with just one Kansas under Mangino moment and I will be thrilled.
Wait. So you are adding up the total of the assistants pay and then somehow correlating that to how much a head coach is getting paid. Interesting.
How many of KF's assistants are leaving do to being underpaid?
The place is called Pheasant Ridge I believe. Been going on for a long time, lots of Hawk players have taken advantage of that loop hole. This way their monthly living stipend doesn't have to go to rent. We get to pick up their tab.
Somebody was hitting the hyperbole a little hard, I think.
JRE1975 circa 2001 said:
CycloneErik
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To be fair, once you've worked for Ken O'Keefe, a cloud hangs over your resume that's hard to remove.
I just made it up, but it sounds just as reasonable as we'll always have a top 20 SOS or whatever.
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Not at all a correlation to how much a HC should get paid, but making sure your trusted employees are taken care of is something I share with CPR. I know that I pay my employees more than nearly all my competition, but I value them and want to reward them with what they have helped me accomplish. I don't want to hold their wages disproportionately low in order to make more for myself.
I believe KF had as many as CPR had leave this year due to low pay, but I don't troll or keep up with the ins and out of Iowa.
Exactly, if anything a few of them should be thanking their lucky stars that they have jobs.
I think what is being overlooked is the fact that he has more money for assistants as well, I believe if he can hire a good OC again and keep Wally for a while longer that 5-8 wins is not out of the question but like many have said as long as there seems to be improvments every year along with accasional upsets I do not see this fan base getting over hyped.. It would be different if the coach was like a mike leach or a gene chizik just because Rhoads is a Cyclone and is so in touch with the fan base.. it seems as though if it was anyother coach that it would not be as flexible
Expectations haven't changed for me. Be competing for a bowl game every year, with the possibility of coming up a game short once every 3-4 years. This is all too possible for ISU due to injuries and the brutality of the Big12 schedules rather than the pillow fights I see in the BigTen and ACC. Similarly, every 3-4 years rise up and win 8 games with a chance for 9 in a bowl game. In the event that we can get back to divisional play and a CCG, I would like to see us get to a 10-win season.
Rhoads is doing a great job of mastering the markers of futility he inherited from his predecessors and I think he could get us our first 10-win season with divisions in the Big12 and take us where we haven't gone before. That's not my expectation but rather my hope and belief that he is the man who can do it.
Cheers
Rhoads is doing a great job of mastering the markers of futility he inherited from his predecessors and I think he could get us our first 10-win season with divisions in the Big12 and take us where we haven't gone before. That's not my expectation but rather my hope and belief that he is the man who can do it.
Cheers
Seems like you want to.
Good for you man. Pay the employees. Keep them happy. You think KF needs to take a pay cut to give his assistants more? Not the case. They get paid plenty and if they wanted a bunch more, where are they going to get it? AKA exactly what KF thinks.