I thought this whole deal was done last night. Liars I tells ya.
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I thought this whole deal was done last night. Liars I tells ya.
I think this is a pretty solid option. Go back to an 8 game football schedule and play every team each year. For bball you go back to a 16 game schedule and get everyone home and away every year for a full balanced schedule.
As for TV, you keep the contracts which are now split 9 ways instead of 10. Even if OU and UT give full sharing on Tier 1, everyone is probably making the same or more now that we can carve up aTm's share of the pie.
At that point, the only reason I would see to add new teams is if you think it can increase your Tier 1 contract in 2016, or if the revenue from a title game can offset the additional teams. If it can't you just stay put.
I really think this conference could come together really well for everyone if we all stick together. The money could be right up there with any other option. And I think a lot of the anger and bad blood between the schools could really up the level of rivalry on the field, as long as we can actually stabilize the league itself. Up until now, there seemed to be a real division between the north and the south and we seemed really disconnected from each other. Now we will be playing every year and my hatred for the South schools right now is stronger than my hatred for the hawks and the huskers over the years. I can't wait to boo the sooners and the horns until I lose my voice.
I have no doubt that we, whoever "we" are anymore, is recruiting new teams. But first, I'm sure everything is on hold until we know whether we continue to exist anymore or not. You can't recruit someone to your conference when you don't know if you'll have a conference to recruit them to.
No question, recruiting BYU to the remaining nine Big 12 teams seems in theory far, far easier than seven, or God forbid, five of us trying to recruit three or five or seven new schools to join us. Assuming you could even persuade that many to leave their current situations, the logistics of all that exodus, settlement fees, etc. and the management of a new conference is a lot to work through.
If the okie schools go to the PAC, do we hope UT and TT go their own way and we invite the BE to join us? We would be up to 14 teams and be the same size as PAC and most likely sec. If we can work the tv contracts right, we might be able to hold teams over ACC.
We stick it to those leaving, 25-30 million exit fee, as per contract and land nicely. Remember we only made in the 8 area last year. Not that I don't want to improve, I definitely don't want to go backwards.
We stick it to those leaving, 25-30 million exit fee, as per contract and land nicely. Remember we only made in the 8 area last year. Not that I don't want to improve, I definitely don't want to go backwards.
I actually want to stick to around 10 teams. And I definitely want to keep UT and OU around as we negotiate our Tier 1 rights in just 4 years. That is why we need OU and UT. And in reality they need the rest of us as well. It is difficult to win with a whole conference of superpowers. You need the average teams like ISU to fill out the conference. OU and UT should have the goal of strengthening the conference overall to give the appearance of conference strength. While still maintaining their edge in recruiting to get NC's. Which is what they are all about.
IMO, it would be a disaster for OU and OSU to leave. The deals for the Pac-?? are done unless Larry Scott has negotiated a BIG increase if he can poach OU to join along with others. And if he did, then the Pac ?? could be found liable for damages to the Big 12. You definitely take all the exit fees. IMO, we would be wounded by the loss of OU. Without a doubt. With them we have a 2 headed monster in football which is about what the other conferences have. We would still have a big presence with just UT but not the same. OU goes to the Pac?? and they suddenly only divide up about $15 to $20 million per year. They could lose at least $5 million to $10 million per year. This is more of a negotiating ploy to share in the benefits of the LHN or add a deal with the Big 12 Network while every school gets a cut from the LHN.
So why did UNL admins consistently voted for unequal revenue sharing if they didn't like it? Please explain that conundrum to me. Their excuses for joining the B1G are just political spin (aka bold-faced lies). UNL and UT were at war with on another from day one of the Big12 and UNL lost, so they went to the B1G to apply a salve to their damaged egos, and placate donors and fans. I believe the reasons for the move are that simple and anything else offered as an explanation is just spin.
Not necessarily. I do not think that is a done deal by any stretch of the imagination unless the PAC 12 prezes say so. Pac 12 does not need them with OU. We will see.
I would actually prefer the 9-10 teams area personally. I would love to just let a&m walk and hold nine and be able to keep contracts. I like 4 non con games and playing home and away with basketball.
I have said that I believe we will be in the big XII of some sort. I was just throwing out potentials, just like the other 10,700 posts on here.
I have said that I believe we will be in the big XII of some sort. I was just throwing out potentials, just like the other 10,700 posts on here.
Lou Holtz says ISU, Big 12 will be fine | Des Moines Register Staff Blogs
If Lou Holtz says it...it has to be true.
FYI this is from Sept. 2nd.
If Lou Holtz says it...it has to be true.
FYI this is from Sept. 2nd.
That is what class manipulators/PR gurus/southern wheeler dealers do for a living. The flim flam man was from down south wasn't he?
Oh god, we're boned. If Lee Corso comes in with confirmation, you can bet that ISU is ending up in the MAC.
Not sure how this will work, but I put together this spreadsheet out of curiosity. I wanted to put data in here that would allow me to sort the data in different ways and see how ISU compares to other schools regardless of their conference affiliation.
Chris can you close this thread too, this seems like a bunch of unreliable information????? The instability is killing me, I am going to close my eyes to this for the rest of the week....:twitcy:
Those rats abandoning ship should have to pay that back (bad faith acceptance) as they were going to sneak away with the money anyway.
NEVER!
Honestly, I love this thread. It's amazing as to how on topic it has stayed for so darn long.
If I was a mod I would lock this thread for one minute just to see the meltdown. Epic. But that would be mean.
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