Well I guess these missionaries weren't loving enough while they were in Afghanistan.
6 Americans Among 10 Medical Missionaries Killed in Afghanistan
Speculation that Osama Bin Laden killed
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Well I guess these missionaries weren't loving enough while they were in Afghanistan.
6 Americans Among 10 Medical Missionaries Killed in Afghanistan
I realize missionaries are killed. It doesn't always work out that love wins out because people are evil and sinful. However, I like my chances much better to get along with people if I love them as opposed to acting violent.
I was only referring to the public reaction to his death. I absolutely agree that we need to do whatever we can to disrupt terrorism and keep it arm's length.
I admire your view, I really do, but it isn't realistic. You don't think any of those people who they have killed have tried the "nice" approach? It doesn't work with these people. I really wish everyone had the outlook and the thought you have. The world would be better for it but it simply will never ever happen. There are always going to be these people. They only way is to end it is in death. Is that idea sad? Sure it is. I don't intend or wish to ever have to kill anyone but if you could throw me back to 2000 and tell me if you kill Osama Bin Laden 9/11 will never happen but you will spend the remainder of your life in prison or you will receive the death penalty, I would do it without asking a question. Of course, that is hindsight in a sense (but not really because it wasn't his first attack) but it's the best I can do.
Don't assume that I don't know what it's like not to be free. I've spent time in other countries that aren't free, like China.
Out of curiousity, how does your "love and peace" theory work on a national level? How does that work with someone like Bin Laden? You've already recognized that there are individuals in this world that are inherently evil-- how do you use peace and love to combat that?
How can you say that? There is very little freedom there, especially political and religious. People get killed for speaking out against the government or for their Christian faith.
I apologize if I have sounded too idealistic. I realize love will not always win out, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's the correct approach. All I can tell you is that fighting violence with violence will never create true peace. As long as we kill people, people will be angry with us and want to hurt us.
It's a little different when you are an American citizen. If you try that as a local peasant they would just execute you and dump you in a ditch somewhere.
Because Americans are not HATED in China. You citing that as the bad place you've been doesn't really impress me. Head off to Iran and then report back.
This is something I have wrestled with for many years now. I don't have all of the answers. I think if we show them kindness over and over again, they will eventually be won over. They might think of us as pushovers at first, but I truly believe they would come around.
And you came back, correct? Spending time somewhere and carrying out a life there are completely different. It's a different outlook. You woke up and lived every day knowing you had the opportunity to come back. The Chinese can leave the country if they so chose. They can do many different things and if they don't like it there, they can leave. That's the definition of freedom. In some countries people are put in a position where leaving isn't an option or if they get caught, they are killed. That's the freedom I am talking about.
Nope, but I have spent time there, I honestly have known several people who have spent years there, and I have read many articles/books on this.
I don't think that's a very comprehensive view of freedom. Freedom is also about every day decisions. Many Chinese students have no choice on what subject they study in college or where they attend college. Most cannot speak out against the government. Most couples were limited to having 1 child. They are also not allowed to talk about their Christian faith to young people (and sometimes older people) without having the fear of persecution. These are just a few examples.
I know someone that has spent significant time in Iran, and he's got some pretty good insight.