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Izzo wanted him, Fred wants him. I want him on the team.

Do you doubt izzo's ability to spot talent?

It's not about his talent. he obviously has some talent. it's about tying up a scholarship for two years on a one-year player for me. But if you're hanging your hat on Izzo signing him, you know, of course, that Izzo recruited over him and then kicked him off the team. So the question gets thrown right back at you. Do you doubt Izzo's ability to spot talent?
 
just a guess but if the staff thought they could get someone better they would of.

Sheesh, how can you even suggest that the coaching staff with all of their years of basketball experience are more qualified than posters on this site to determine who would or would not be a good addition to the team?
 
Right now, we should take all the 'honorable mentions' we can get. IMHO.


Isn't that the kind of player we have now? I'd like to step up to third team, anyway, or * gasp * even second or first team. How many years have we placed no one on any of the all-conference teams but had a couple of honorable mentions? A lot, IIRC.
 
Sounds like Korie Lucious is going to sign with us this week. Some people have said they don't want him, but the poll that was on the front page showed a strong majority of folks on here will be happy he's on the team. I'm excited about it too. It will be great when he can play for us, but I also think he will be very valuable while sitting out next year and providing good competition in practice.
How, exactly, is he going to sign with us? The Spring signing period is April 15, though I'm not sure how that applies to a transfer.
 
I love it when you try to belittle people for doing exactly what you do regularly.

If someone posts something you disagree with, respectfully trying to make each other understand your point of view is what the forums are all about.

Amen. You'd cut out 1/4 of this forum if you filtered the smart *** remarks from the know it all/cyber tough guys.
 
And you can say this with absolute certainty? Last I looked, Fred was doing a pretty decent recruiting job. Even at a 5 percent chance of being a decent Big 12 player, that's a better chance than Lucious will have as he sits on a bench that year.

Maybe Clayton Vette is available.
 
Isn't that the kind of player we have now? I'd like to step up to third team, anyway, or * gasp * even second or first team. How many years have we placed no one on any of the all-conference teams but had a couple of honorable mentions? A lot, IIRC.

You're absolutely right. I mean teams in the bottom half of major conferences sign players late in the spring all the time who end up being 1st and 2nd team all conference players. Thats a big trend among highly ranked recruits. Wait until late their senior year then pick a mediocre schoo to go play at. There are tons of really good prospects still looking for a school at this time of the year.
 
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And you can say this with absolute certainty? Last I looked, Fred was doing a pretty decent recruiting job. Even at a 5 percent chance of being a decent Big 12 player, that's a better chance than Lucious will have as he sits on a bench that year.
Yes, Fred is doing a decent job recruiting, therefore, if he wants Luscious he has a good reason to do so. Make up your mind.
 
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Isn't that the kind of player we have now? I'd like to step up to third team, anyway, or * gasp * even second or first team. How many years have we placed no one on any of the all-conference teams but had a couple of honorable mentions? A lot, IIRC.
I'll be amazed if we have anyone but DG on the list and he will be honorable mention......so, no we don't have that kind of player on this year's squad.
 
You're absolutely right. I mean teams in the bottom half of major conferences sign players late in the spring all the time who end up being 1st and 2nd team all conference players. Thats a big trend among highly ranked recruits. Wait until late their senior year then pick a mediocre schoo to go play at. There are tons of really good prospects still looking for a school at this time of the year.
So say Mike Taylor and wesley johnson
 
I'll be amazed if we have anyone but DG on the list and he will be honorable mention......so, no we don't have that kind of player on this year's squad.
DG will atleast be 2nd team. He deserves first but will most likely be second.
 
You're absolutely right. I mean teams in the bottom half of major conferences sign players late in the spring all the time who end up being 1st and 2nd team all conference players. Thats a big trend among highly ranked recruits. Wait until late their senior year then pick a mediocre schoo to go play at. There are tons of really good prospects still looking for a school at this time of the year.


That is hilarious.
 
What we need is a good TEAM. That means multiple players of honorable mention quality or better... Instead of maybe just "one"...

Oh, and some coaching and chemistry... That lacked under the last regime. I mean we did have some good players- Mike Taylor, Wes Johnson, and Craig Brackins to name a few.
 
I'll be amazed if we have anyone but DG on the list and he will be honorable mention......so, no we don't have that kind of player on this year's squad.


Make up YOUR mind. You just said DG would be honorable mention, then said we don't have that kind of player on this year's team.
 
I wouldnt say Tom Izzo lost interest in winning. He believed dismissing Allen and Lucious were far better than having Ws. I respect Izzo for doing the right thing.

greatshu, u really wanna go there. do you have any ideas what Allen or Lucious did? Probably not. Conflict of personality etc. What about White. Is he really a bad guy. ISU doesn't think so. FACTS are important.
 
Make up YOUR mind. You just said DG would be honorable mention, then said we don't have that kind of player on this year's team.

"Isn't that the kind of player we have now? I'd like to step up to third team, anyway, or * gasp * even second or first team. How many years have we placed no one on any of the all-conference teams but had a couple of honorable mentions? A lot, IIRC."

Read your own words and then ...........spin away my AR friend.
 
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DG will atleast be 2nd team. He deserves first but will most likely be second.

I think DG has a pretty good shot at 2nd team. I don't think he deserves 1st team all conference though. He might be the best pure PG in the conference but the first team usually ends up the best 5 players in the conference, regardless of position, and I don't think he is one of the top 5 players... plus, it is really, really hard to put a player on the last place team in a 12 team league on the first team.

I hope he gets 2nd team though, I could see him getting the shaft, but I think he deserves it.
 
I think DG has a pretty good shot at 2nd team. I don't think he deserves 1st team all conference though. He might be the best pure PG in the conference but the first team usually ends up the best 5 players in the conference, regardless of position, and I don't think he is one of the top 5 players... plus, it is really, really hard to put a player on the last place team in a 12 team league on the first team.

I hope he gets 2nd team though, I could see him getting the shaft, but I think he deserves it.

Agreed. Our record makes 1st team impossible, but his #s call for an appearance. 2nd team would be about right.
 

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