Wayne Morgan to Iowa?
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I know, but hey at least during those days, you thought you had a chance to win games!And we barely beat a very overrated Minnesota team to get there...
Very good point, and I agree - at this point McDermott is in lame duck status and we're just hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.
True, but Wayne was never a great x's and o's coach. If the new guy @ Iowa is good with X's and O's, Wayne can definitely bring in the talent and the Hawks could be on the rise real fast.In the 3 previous matchups of Wayne's "athletes" vs. Greg's "clodhoppers", here's how Wayne fared:
1) won by 3
2) lost by 17
3) won by 7
Yeah, those are some real poundings Wayne dished out.
He was a good basketball player though. Unless you think being the 6th man on a runner-up Nat'l team and then starting for a very good team the next season means he sucks.
I can certainly respect this opinion, and I think many other Cyclone fans would agree with you. There have been many cases where this worked wonderfully, and just as many where it blew up in a school's face.
I really hope McDermott can get this thing turned around, and I think Pollard believes he will. If the time ever comes where Pollard doesn't believe that, then GMac will be out the door, buyout be damned.
That team seemed to care more about ISU basketball than Gmac's recent teams. I don't recall any starters on that tream transferring, especially in the middle of the season.
Curtis Stinson played as hard for ISU as anyone in recent history. Not always smart, but he wanted to win and play hard. Hey, in that year you think nobody cared, the Big 12 coaches voted Stinson to the All Big 12 defensive team.
So all that little returning talent is now going to perform better with a new system? Probably not, but perhaps in the future.
I bet the records after Fran's first two years is similar to Lick's. Well his model deemed a failure as well?
It would have been much more efficient, with less baseless and inconsistent (if not illogical) statements by just starting off with this...rather than making poor attempts to relate every random college basketball situation to being better than ISU's.
The willingness for ISU fans to settle for mediocrity amazes me sometimes - and it astounds me further as to why the same ISU fans ***** and moan about how the national media never respects us.
Were Morgan's years better than McDermott's? Certainly - and I'm not arguing that. Although I define NIT appearances and bubble seeds as mediocrity, it certainly is better than what we have now. I just refuse to allow McDermott's failures here to warp my view that Morgan's 3 years here were anything but mediocre, especially when during Morgan's tenure we weren't so far removed from back-to-back 2-seeds (arguably deserving 1-seeds both years) and had come to EXPECT quality basketball.
Honestly, I think it's the pining for mediocre basketball that disturbs me most about the "Morgan was fired unjustly" circle...
I'll answer it for you: Jamie made a huge mistake firing Wayne, and his entire staff / uprooting the families, basically without cause.
If Jamie thought there were any deficiencies on Wayne's part, he should have done the right thing any normal/ good boss would have done - outline the problem areas and give the man a chance to work it out in a reasonable time frame.
Everybody complains about BVD not giving LE a second chance, Jamie screwed the pooch by pulling the trigger way too soon on WM, then went into contract negotiations with GM from a poor platform that resulted in the current state of the program.
And we barely beat a very overrated Minnesota team to get there...
We beat a solid Minnesota team by 12 I think. Oh my god, the Wayne haters have been relegated to bashing an NCAA Tourney win!
After the past 4 years, it is surreal (and ridiculous) reading a Cyclone fan complain about a team that went to the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament. Seriously, WTF? :no:
I guess I'm not sure which baseless and illogical statements I made, other than that, in my opinion, Wayne Morgan is now sitting on the bench of a program that has committed themselves to moving in a new direction, whereas we seem to be pounding our head against the wall, waiting for a losing formula to win.
Again, just my opinion...nothing empirical. I figured opinion is what these message boards survive on...
Why is it in your world such an injustice to want and expect BETTER than Wayne Morgan?
(and no, I don't consider McDermott better than Morgan)
Yes, people are whining about Wayne because he barely won an NCAA Tourney game (I thought it was 64-52 actually or something like that). Surreal considering where our program has gone since he was fired.