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Zion Griffin Recent Dunk Highlights

FinalFourCy said:
He had great shot-selection.
Career True Shooting % and effective FG% above 62%. 39% on 3P. Only a 27% 3P attempt rate, but dunks are good shots too.

I’m sure most are optimistic Zion will eventually have more volume, but Hogue could have had he not played with guys like Kane, Ejim, Georges, Nader, BDJ etc (see UConn game).
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I may be in the minority here, but I think Dustin's huge game in MSG hurt our team for the following year. Not a significant amount, but noticeably. Once he realized he could score with the best of them, he started looking to drop to the corner and shoot more jumpers. Where before he was that hard work junkyard dog who would crash the boards no matter what, brought intensity on both ends and out worked anyone for a 50/50 ball.

While he was still a great player for us, I thought if he played more of the "role player" role that he did his junior season, it would have had a nice effect on the rest of our team. Dustin was one of my favorite players on those teams, but I remember missing a part of his game during his senior year that I never had to question during his other seasons. But I digress. Dusty was awesome, just think that 34 point game changed his mindset a bit.
 
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jbindm said:
That seems to be the trend for NBA talent evaluators now, too. When they look at players it's the free throw percentage and stroke that's the truest indication of how good a shooter they can be.
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Clearly Lewis has potential to be a great shooter for us, I can't quite figure out why his ball rotation looks funky though.
 
srjclone said:
I may be in the minority here, but I think Dustin's huge game in MSG hurt our team for the following year. Not a significant amount, but noticeably. Once he realized he could score with the best of them, he started looking to drop to the corner and shoot more jumpers. Where before he was that hard work junkyard dog who would crash the boards no matter what, brought intensity on both ends and out worked anyone for a 50/50 ball.

While he was still a great player for us, I thought if he played more of the "role player" role that he did his junior season, it would have had a nice effect on the rest of our team. Dustin was one of my favorite players on those teams, but I remember missing a part of his game during his senior year that I never had to question during his other seasons. But I digress. Dusty was awesome, just think that 34 point game changed his mindset a bit.
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You might be onto something there. I just now looked at his stats - from his junor year to his senior year his rebounds per game dropped from 8.5 to 4.9. Maybe some of that had to do with the arrival of a legit post presence in Jameel McKay, but yeah. Overall that team never developed much chemistry anyway.

Enough thread derailment from this corner. Zion's gonna be a damn good player at ISU. Hopefully sooner than later.
 
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jbindm said:
That seems to be the trend for NBA talent evaluators now, too. When they look at players it's the free throw percentage and stroke that's the truest indication of how good a shooter they can be.
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srjclone said:
I may be in the minority here, but I think Dustin's huge game in MSG hurt our team for the following year. Not a significant amount, but noticeably. Once he realized he could score with the best of them, he started looking to drop to the corner and shoot more jumpers. Where before he was that hard work junkyard dog who would crash the boards no matter what, brought intensity on both ends and out worked anyone for a 50/50 ball.

While he was still a great player for us, I thought if he played more of the "role player" role that he did his junior season, it would have had a nice effect on the rest of our team. Dustin was one of my favorite players on those teams, but I remember missing a part of his game during his senior year that I never had to question during his other seasons. But I digress. Dusty was awesome, just think that 34 point game changed his mindset a bit.
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That’s a huge stretch imo. No only do the offensive metrics not support such a change, to say it was the downside result of the UConn game is a bit extreme.

His shooting and usage were basically the same, and any role change was likely due to him needing to fill in for Ejim until McKay was back, plus the change in play of the players around him from losing Kane and Ejim and replacing them with BDJ, Nader, and McKay. There was more competition for rebounds and less space for him to crash. He was the same.
 
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jbindm said:
Yeah, thanks for looking up the exact percentage. I don't think anyone was going to confuse him with Steph Curry but as I recall he had a decent stroke as a spot up shooter. My memory of that season is foggy but IIRC he was very competent from the corners.
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Will never forget seeing that run in Hilton when down 20+ to Oklahoma in the 2nd half. Being capped off by Hogue's corner three on the feed from Monte to put them over the top and not look back. Was the loudest I've ever experienced Hilton. Just one play after another offense and defense, just kept getting louder and louder.

And of course who could forget that pure shooting form with the scissor kick...He was a fun one to watch. Regardless of right or wrong in-game decisions, he played with a ton of passion.
 
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Tre4ISU said:
Did you watch Hogue play? He shot 43% his senior year. The guy was a nightmare.
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jbindm said:
Yeah, thanks for looking up the exact percentage. I don't think anyone was going to confuse him with Steph Curry but as I recall he had a decent stroke as a spot up shooter. My memory of that season is foggy but IIRC he was very competent from the corners.
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But how good is his karate kick?
 
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srjclone said:
I may be in the minority here, but I think Dustin's huge game in MSG hurt our team for the following year. Not a significant amount, but noticeably. Once he realized he could score with the best of them, he started looking to drop to the corner and shoot more jumpers. Where before he was that hard work junkyard dog who would crash the boards no matter what, brought intensity on both ends and out worked anyone for a 50/50 ball.

While he was still a great player for us, I thought if he played more of the "role player" role that he did his junior season, it would have had a nice effect on the rest of our team. Dustin was one of my favorite players on those teams, but I remember missing a part of his game during his senior year that I never had to question during his other seasons. But I digress. Dusty was awesome, just think that 34 point game changed his mindset a bit.
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His usage barely went up and his shooting percentages were very similar. He also played on a team with two other real alphas instead of four and he was in a little different role because McKay was there. Almost the exact thing happened to Ejim when Hogue came in and he won POY.
 
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Tre4ISU said:
His usage barely went up and his shooting percentages were very similar. He also played on a team with two other real alphas instead of four and he was in a little different role because McKay was there. Almost the exact thing happened to Ejim when Hogue came in and he won POY.
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This. Take a look at that team Hogue's senior year.

Hogue, Niang, Morris, BDJ, McKay, Naz, Nader, MT.

Thing the emergence of McKay hurt his rebounding numbers. When McKay/Niang were on the floor Hogue either played the 3 or was on the bench.
 
Aaron said:
Check out the link below at 0:39, 1:20, 3:12. 3 Big dunks. Has more bounce than I thought.

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I knew he had that type of jumping ability what surprised me was the power he finished the dunks with.
 
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