2011 Baylor game in Waco. RGIII fumbles the ball while bringing it down to his side after pump faking a pass. RGIII frantically goes after the lost ball (knowing that he fumbled), ISU recovers and the refs use the "Tuck Rule" which at the time applied to the NFL only and called it an incomplete pass. That game our kicker was also called off sides on a kick off. OUR KICKER!!!! Only in Texas....
Zebra Conspiracy
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2011 Baylor game in Waco. RGIII fumbles the ball while bringing it down to his side after pump faking a pass. RGIII frantically goes after the lost ball (knowing that he fumbled), ISU recovers and the refs use the "Tuck Rule" which at the time applied to the NFL only and called it an incomplete pass. That game our kicker was also called off sides on a kick off. OUR KICKER!!!! Only in Texas....
If it were an undefeated OU or TX team with the same schedule they would be in the discussion. They want the big name teams in the title game because the big names draw more eyes. Unfortunately money drives the sport, not performance. Sad, but true.
They do close out with a tougher schedule FSU and Alabama have some bye weeks against Idaho and Chattanooga.
You mean stop them in a way other than stripping the ball from them? Yeah, I guess we wouldn't be complaining but why do you think Iowa State shouldn't be allowed to stop a team like that?
Oklahoma State does not have the word "Texas" in their name, nor do they come from the state of Texas.
If you're from Texas, especially if you're a Hornheifer fan, you have NO love for things Oklahoma.
If you're from Texas, especially if you're a Hornheifer fan, you have NO love for things Oklahoma.
I will probably get slammed but I have an emerging theory on this phenomenon. Let's face it, we're at the bottom of the Big XII football barrel right now and, unfortunately, they're going to put low-end crews on our games. It is a fact of life. These low-end crews, some consciously and some sub-consciously, are still in the process of trying to earn acceptance from the league coaches. Some might feel like they are furthering that cause by showing slight favoritism to the big guy or putting down the little guy.
Again, this is just a theory but I've seen it happen even at the high school level where I officiate basketball. There are some tenured coaches in certain leagues who have a lot of power and say with the commissioner and some new guys think they're helping themselves by gaining the approval of those people. And sad as it is, maybe they are.
Again, this is just a theory but I've seen it happen even at the high school level where I officiate basketball. There are some tenured coaches in certain leagues who have a lot of power and say with the commissioner and some new guys think they're helping themselves by gaining the approval of those people. And sad as it is, maybe they are.
Does anyone have the footage of TCU receiver coming back inbounds and making that catch? Maybe it happened way up the field and I didn't see it but I thought our guy was in front of their guy and wondered how our guy pushed him out? The north scoreboard camera should have a great shot of it.
I still want to see any evidence that our guy "forced" him out of bounds. Did it happen much earlier than what we saw on the replay during the game? Did he somehow "force" him out of bounds without making contact?
The only thing that makes any sense is that the receiver went out of bounds and Tribune was called for not letting him back in bounds. That is the point where the ref throws his hat, not earlier when the receiver first went out of bounds.
On the Cyclone Reaction show, they read a response from the head official, but he only talked about the rule where a player who is forced out can make a catch as long as he is in the air and gets a foot down in bounds, but they said nothing about the part where the receiver was "forced" out of bounds.
At any rate, that is the lamest "forced out of bounds" call that I have ever seen.
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I thought the replay would be on cyclones.tv today, I'm guessing it will be tomorrow at the latest. So any subscribers can at least check out the full game when that happens. I had a horrible video stream for the game but decent audio, so I can only go by what the FSN announcers said which is that he bobbled the ball and wasn't forced out. They were certainly perplexed that it stood.
Do I believe there is a conspiracy? No. Is it getting harder and harder to describe the continual ******* from refs as anything other than a conspiracy? Yes.
Other than fans of a blue blood teams...I can't comprehend how anyone disapproves of using computer averages to determine part or all of the playoff participants. Baylor's computer rating is moving up now as the other teams are even or heading downward, it may or may not help them...the AP, Coaches and Harris poll making evaluations based on brand FOR SURE does not help Baylor.
This is the first year in a quite a while the Big 12 hasn't been a clear #1 or #2 in computer average. The media rarely hold our conference in that esteem when impartial computers regularly do.
Here's what I don't get, put perhaps you referee experts can help me with. Why would the line judge throw his hat, indicating that the WR had gone out of bounds, if he never intended to call a penalty? Isn't a hat thrown to indicate that a receiver went out of bounds and can't be the first person to touch it?
Like I said earlier...drop the word "conspiracy" and 99% of our fans are in agreement that something just isn't right.
To some people "conspiracy" is a handful of refs regularly making questionable biased calls without a ton of communication between them. To others "conspiracy" is the Big 12 holding sanctioned meetings where they instruct how to fix games for Kansas hoops and Texas football and screw over ISU at every chance.
Everyone with a shred common sense knows the first one is going on regularly. Hardly anyone thinks the second is happening, but if someone uses the word "conspiracy" that's what comes to mind for many people.
Earlier some people said they're supposed to throw the hat whether they're pushed out or not, which makes sense. It seems nobody has any online footage to show if he really was pushed out or if the ball was bobbled, but as it happened live most thought both of those made it not a catch.
The video is up on Cyclones.tv. The Line Judge doesn't throw his hat until the receiver tries to come back in bounds. I think he was claiming that Tribune "forced" him back out a second time by not letting him onto the field and putting an arm on him. That is the only think that even remotely makes sense. Still, it was a horrible call.
Can't watch it till later, but why does it even matter if Tribune doesn't let him back in if he went out on his own? The ruling is that he was pushed out and I'm pretty sure that's the way they phrased it.
How does the video look regarding bobbling the ball? It's a whole lot of talk for nothing if they blew that replay element.
It is, but I think that's the least significant thing people think of when they hear the word. The use of the word conspiracy is what divides us.
If you phrase the question, "Does Kansas basketball regularly get overly beneficial calls in Big 12 play", we'd be in 99% agreement. When you phrase it "Is there a conspiracy to help KU basketball win?" we get a 50/50 split.
Using the true definition though, if even 2-3 people talk about it once or twice, it is a conspiracy just not to a complex degree. Pac 12's recent issue could certainly be described as a conspiracy. NBA's is debatable but I highly doubt the crooked refs acted completely independently, Euro soccer has had the full out, organized, mafia like game fixing conspiracies exposed.