Wigginton declaring for NBA Draft, not hiring agent

You mean stalemate- there is dribbling that doesn’t have much driving so it’s reasonable to have a term for it. And slashing definitely has a different connotation than dribble-drive.

How do you know that dribble-drive didn’t come first, and the convention of a guy “driving” only exists as a shorthand mutation of dribble-drive?
I think you care about this more than I do. Just messing around man.
 
Coach Prohm is telling LW that he will have to improve his skills to play PG in the league. Knowing when to play fast, passing skills, improving his handle, and FTs are at the top of the list.
Wiggy has shown he can drive, hit mid-range pull-ups, and shoot 3 pointers. He also knows another year with CSP will round out his elite talent. He will be wearing cardinal and gold next year.
 
One thing that would help Lindell is pushing to get inside the defense before it gets set. Babb excelled when he did that too, but both struggled once the defense was set.
See the WVU and OU wins. Or many of our fast starts.

We’ll have the depth and athletes to run full-time next year, but we’ll need to be better defensively.
 
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In my opinion, he has NBA level potential, but I believe firmly that he needs at least another year. I'm not saying this for selfish reasons - just what I think after watching him all year. I saw obvious improvement during the year, but LW many times got knocked down with contact that guys who get drafted do not get knocked down with - many times it was from guys of sub-NBA size. I don't know whether it's his balance or strength, but whatever it is needs to be worked on if he wants to play in the NBA. There are other things like his passing too which need to improve.

Thing is that he's considered small for NBA PG size - meaning he has to do a lot of things even better than others to make up for his "lack" of size. His shooting is already pretty decent, but his passing is not there yet and his strength/balance isn't either.

Whether or not he actually leaves is a completely different story but I'd actually be pretty surprised if he got drafted this year - next year maybe...he'll obviously receive valuable feedback which is hopefully taken very well no matter where he ends up next year.
 
It’s great experience and exposure for him. The only thing I worry about is every year 60+ are told they have a first round grade, and obviously only 30 are taken in the first.
 
In my opinion, he has NBA level potential, but I believe firmly that he needs at least another year. I'm not saying this for selfish reasons - just what I think after watching him all year. I saw obvious improvement during the year, but LW many times got knocked down with contact that guys who get drafted do not get knocked down with - many times it was from guys of sub-NBA size. I don't know whether it's his balance or strength, but whatever it is needs to be worked on if he wants to play in the NBA. There are other things like his passing too which need to improve.

Thing is that he's considered small for NBA PG size - meaning he has to do a lot of things even better than others to make up for his "lack" of size. His shooting is already pretty decent, but his passing is not there yet and his strength/balance isn't either.

Whether or not he actually leaves is a completely different story but I'd actually be pretty surprised if he got drafted this year - next year maybe...he'll obviously receive valuable feedback which is hopefully taken very well no matter where he ends up next year.
The part where you said he is considered small for NBA PG size is rediculus where did u hear that lol
 
It’s great experience and exposure for him. The only thing I worry about is every year 60+ are told they have a first round grade, and obviously only 30 are taken in the first.
At some point you gotta hope he trusts Prohm's opinion, as much as those surrounding him.
 
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In my opinion, he has NBA level potential, but I believe firmly that he needs at least another year. I'm not saying this for selfish reasons - just what I think after watching him all year. I saw obvious improvement during the year, but LW many times got knocked down with contact that guys who get drafted do not get knocked down with - many times it was from guys of sub-NBA size. I don't know whether it's his balance or strength, but whatever it is needs to be worked on if he wants to play in the NBA. There are other things like his passing too which need to improve.

Thing is that he's considered small for NBA PG size - meaning he has to do a lot of things even better than others to make up for his "lack" of size. His shooting is already pretty decent, but his passing is not there yet and his strength/balance isn't either.

Whether or not he actually leaves is a completely different story but I'd actually be pretty surprised if he got drafted this year - next year maybe...he'll obviously receive valuable feedback which is hopefully taken very well no matter where he ends up next year.


Totally get it. With Royce, I think we all knew he was ready (bball skills, obviously a lot of the mental health and extra issues surfaced more after he left).

However with Lindell, I think another year will make him a force come next spring.
 
Interesting list of young PG's that could be testing the waters this year. This will factor into Lindell's decision on when to come out, this year or even next year. This year appears pretty deep at PG late in round one with an number of notable names that could be above him in late round one consideration prior to the NBA evaluation.
As they declare it will affect his chances at the combine invite this year.

Depending on who stays and goes we'll have a direct comparison of his chances next year as he improves against his college peers assuming he returns to ISU.

@Sam_Vecenie Serious interest in the early entry PG class and their decisions to stay or go in the NBA Draft. Lot of guys (Shamet, Graham, Carter, Robinson, Brown, Thomas, Melton, Brunson, Duval, Carr, Ponds, etc.) competing for end of Round 1, not many one-and-done PGs projected next year.
 
Interesting list of young PG's that could be testing the waters this year. This will factor into Lindell's decision on when to come out, this year or even next year. This year appears pretty deep at PG late in round one with an number of notable names that could be above him in late round one consideration prior to the NBA evaluation.
As they declare it will affect his chances at the combine invite this year.

Depending on who stays and goes we'll have a direct comparison of his chances next year as he improves against his college peers assuming he returns to ISU.

@Sam_Vecenie Serious interest in the early entry PG class and their decisions to stay or go in the NBA Draft. Lot of guys (Shamet, Graham, Carter, Robinson, Brown, Thomas, Melton, Brunson, Duval, Carr, Ponds, etc.) competing for end of Round 1, not many one-and-done PGs projected next year.

Add Aaron Holiday to the list. I think he is a projected early second rounder right now.
 
The part where you said he is considered small for NBA PG size is rediculus where did u hear that lol

Actually yeah, that was too harsh. 6'2" is fine. I'm just maybe too swayed by the strength/balance weakness I see which I think will really impede his draft status this year if he didn't really improve it somehow in the last few months. I think it will be the biggest knock on him and room for improvement to be honest - just my guess.

By the way, I looked at the PGs on espn.com - average PG height in the NBA is just below 6'3". About 61% of the PGs on rosters right now are 6'3" and above versus about 39% at 6'2" and below. 6'3" is by far the biggest group for heights, but yeah 6'2" should be fine. Still the strength/balance thing being knocked down....I hope he plays in the league and maybe even soon but I hope he gets some realistic feedback to help him on his way. Personally I think he needs just one more year - and hit the weight room and deal with balance issues and he'd probably be pretty ready after that one year. Then again I'm not a scout :)

BTW here's the frequency for each height for people on NBA rosters listed at PG:

5'9": 1.786%
5'10": 0.893%
5'11": 2.679%
6'0": 10.714%
6'1": 13.393%
6'2": 10.714%
6'3": 25.893%
6'4": 14.286%
6'5": 11.607%
6'6": 6.25%
6'7": 0.893%
6'10": 0.893%

Interestingly enough you can see that both 6'4" and 6'5" individually are more common than 6'2" and 6'4" is individually more common than anything under 6'3"
 
Actually yeah, that was too harsh. 6'2" is fine. I'm just maybe too swayed by the strength/balance weakness I see which I think will really impede his draft status this year if he didn't really improve it somehow in the last few months. I think it will be the biggest knock on him and room for improvement to be honest - just my guess.

By the way, I looked at the PGs on espn.com - average PG height in the NBA is just below 6'3". About 61% of the PGs on rosters right now are 6'3" and above versus about 39% at 6'2" and below. 6'3" is by far the biggest group for heights, but yeah 6'2" should be fine. Still the strength/balance thing being knocked down....I hope he plays in the league and maybe even soon but I hope he gets some realistic feedback to help him on his way. Personally I think he needs just one more year - and hit the weight room and deal with balance issues and he'd probably be pretty ready after that one year. Then again I'm not a scout :)

BTW here's the frequency for each height for people on NBA rosters listed at PG:

5'9": 1.786%
5'10": 0.893%
5'11": 2.679%
6'0": 10.714%
6'1": 13.393%
6'2": 10.714%
6'3": 25.893%
6'4": 14.286%
6'5": 11.607%
6'6": 6.25%
6'7": 0.893%
6'10": 0.893%

Interestingly enough you can see that both 6'4" and 6'5" individually are more common than 6'2" and 6'4" is individually more common than anything under 6'3"
Could you share a similar distribution for the SG position? By the way, one decimal point would be good for better readability.
 
Coach Prohm is telling LW that he will have to improve his skills to play PG in the league. Knowing when to play fast, passing skills, improving his handle, and FTs are at the top of the list.
Wiggy has shown he can drive, hit mid-range pull-ups, and shoot 3 pointers. He also knows another year with CSP will round out his elite talent. He will be wearing cardinal and gold next year.
Are you in the know or is this all conjecture? Seems conjecture-y to me.
 
Could you share a similar distribution for the SG position? By the way, one decimal point would be good for better readability.

Indirectly a good point. I think that Lindell last year played better at SG than PG but I could be wrong. In any case, he'd definitely be undersized as a SG in the NBA. Average height works out to be 6'5".34. Out of the 120 SGs on the rosters, only 5 are 6'2" and lower, with the lowest being 6'1".

6'1": 0.83%
6'2": 3.33%
6'3": 6.67%
6'4": 15%
6'5": 26.67%
6'6": 23.33%
6'7": 20%
6'8": 4.17%

74.17% of all SG are 6'5" and over while only 4.17% are 6'2" and under. There's actually the same number of 6'8" SG in the NBA as there are 6'1" and 6'2" SGs combined. Of course, it doesn't mean anything but if NBA scouts/GMs/etc don't think of LW as a good enough PG, then they'd evaluate him as a SG. Of course, people like Jason Terry are 6'2" so it's not like it's a lost cause but they'd have to think highly enough of him at that position to give him a shot while being undersized.
 
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It’s great experience and exposure for him. The only thing I worry about is every year 60+ are told they have a first round grade, and obviously only 30 are taken in the first.

Lindell seems like he’s got his head set squarely on his shoulders. If he chooses to go, it will be because he has a real opportunity.
 
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Interesting list of young PG's that could be testing the waters this year. This will factor into Lindell's decision on when to come out, this year or even next year. This year appears pretty deep at PG late in round one with an number of notable names that could be above him in late round one consideration prior to the NBA evaluation.
As they declare it will affect his chances at the combine invite this year.

Depending on who stays and goes we'll have a direct comparison of his chances next year as he improves against his college peers assuming he returns to ISU.

@Sam_Vecenie Serious interest in the early entry PG class and their decisions to stay or go in the NBA Draft. Lot of guys (Shamet, Graham, Carter, Robinson, Brown, Thomas, Melton, Brunson, Duval, Carr, Ponds, etc.) competing for end of Round 1, not many one-and-done PGs projected next year.
Hell of a list just for late first round
 

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