Who is our QB next week?
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Sam will be our QB against Kansas State. If he's not I will lose all faith in this coaching staff.
There are a lot of problems. I don't think the QB is going to make a lot of difference. At least Sam can scramble, which we need!
Let the running backs worry about picking up the dang rushing yards. As far as Im concerned the QB should be a better passer then rusher
It's good to know that not only did the play on the field not improve this year, but the same old Cyclone rhetoric still is holding true. "Our starter can't possibly be the best QB we have!"
Face it people, there is a barrel and we are on the bottom of it.
Face it people, there is a barrel and we are on the bottom of it.
I haven't. The times that were close were against top-20 teams with NFL prospects at most positions and under Chizik, but nothing this bad across the board.
Wow, the QB certainly made a difference for Baylor. Since he came out they look almost like us on O.
Sam will be the QB on Saturday, but the OP is correct, there were times when Sam had guys open downfield and didn't even look at them. This is exactly what I said before the season even started: If ISU can not successfully complete at least a few passed down field than the opposing defenses will load up the box and cover the first 5-10 yards past the LOS. They will man up on the WRs and take the chance that the ISU QB will not be able to throw a good enough pass, or that they can cover. Until they make other teams defend the rest of the field, it is going to be 2013 all over again.
Sam will start the next game, but the OP is correct.
Sam has gone back to his old form of playing hero ball.
Once again Sam was the primary ball carrier and once again we lost the game badly. He is what 1-10 now as a starter. Some of those loses were very winnable games. He just does not have what it takes to win games.
It will be a long year.
Sam has gone back to his old form of playing hero ball.
Once again Sam was the primary ball carrier and once again we lost the game badly. He is what 1-10 now as a starter. Some of those loses were very winnable games. He just does not have what it takes to win games.
It will be a long year.
Hero ball? Lol.
Sam is not checking out of plays to call his number or refusing to handoff/pitch the ball. The issue is Rhoads wants to use the passing game to run the ball. A big part of that is QB scrambles. Most of Sam's runs were the optimal decision on that play. That is a problem, but not Sam's doing. After 5+ years, multiple OCs and QBs, that is CPR's doing.
Also, did anyone notice he took off on our opening drive? That is not deemed hero ball because we eventually scored.
That was his best run of the day also. Taking off is great when it gets a first down and/or 10+ yards. Routinely doing so instead of scrambling to throw is a problem particularly if you aren't an amazing runner who can make guys miss (think Sam at KSU.) Even Barnett looked to throw when he was scrambling more.
Too many bad lossed with Richardson under center when he didn't play well. I think he is a good enough backup who can come in and provide a spark in case of injury but he can't go toe to toe with Big 12 QBs.
I think the next 3 games Baylor included are more winnable than people think. All 3 may very well play down to ISU they have each done so pretty recently and its a shame the team isn't going to get a crack at them with the best QB or even 2nd best on the roster. Its the same dude who has lost so many winnable games who will get to play those games who was rightly #3 entering the offseason and won the job with good practice play only to have a miserable last 3 quarters and not answer one of 5 NDSU tuddys.
(I hope I am not being over the top critical here I have had warnings about my criticism of Richardson from moderators and am trying to not be over the top.)
Against KU and WVU? He has two okay games against teams Sam played equally as well. Seriously, Grant would have made that game a shutout.
Grant is not the answer. He can't scramble, is not accurate, and forced passes. If there comes a time to try someone else it is time to see what the freshmen can do.
looooool. You and I both wish. And, I'm a Vikes fan.
This is kind of amazing. Very witty with a good blend of truth infused.
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It took Mangino what....three to four years to make Kansas a team to fear. I think unfortunately it's another case of the OC not having the tools he needs, and since he isn't the head coach, can do little about the wet-paper line of defense played on the other side of the ball.
A lot of people forget that although Mangino has a great track record at reviving KU, he had autonomous control of the team on both sides of the ball. The defense and offense play off each other.
A lot of people forget that although Mangino has a great track record at reviving KU, he had autonomous control of the team on both sides of the ball. The defense and offense play off each other.
I just rewatched the game, and Sam played pretty well. He had good accuracy and velocity on his throws, including throws downfield. There were several passes against NDSU that had to be right on the money and right on time, and they were. His pass to Lazard was beautiful, hitting him right in stride. There were a couple of drops that had potential had they been caught. I specifically saw one zone read where he made the wrong read (DE immediately crashed inside, and he still handed it off to the RB). On the 3rd & long plays where he threw it to a WR only 5 yards downfield, it was clear from the amount of time he held the ball that his deep options weren't open and the check-down was the best option. He scrambled at the right times, and generally got first downs out of them. I did change my opinion of the first INT - that was a bad read on his part. The receiver was covered well enough by the zone that he shouldn't have gone there. But the second INT is still on Lazard, who should have moved his feet to get to the ball and used two hands to try for the catch.
Our left tackle got abused repeatedly, and our right tackle got abused on occasion. The center and guards seemed to do ok (not great, but not terrible) most of the game. Their LB did a great job getting to their gaps and making plays.
Our WR need to block better. There was one screen play specifically where Lazard put an okay block on the DB and it looked like he was out of the play, but he made a great hustle play to get back in position and tackle Wemberly for no gain. If Lazard had held that block a half second longer, Wemberly had lots of room to run.
In the first half, our defense (especially the line) wasn't responding to the overloaded lines. NDSU was lining up either unbalanced, or with two TE on the same side. There was never a shift to handle the extra gap. Add that to 1-2 pulling linemen and a blocking fullback, and we were playing 5 on 7. Later in the 2nd quarter we started shifting the DL to account for the extra blocker, but the linemen and FB were still outflanking us. Once we started to adjust, they began running to the weak side. We had a few stretches where we'd hold them to only 4-6 yards on 1st and 2nd down, but we couldn't keep the consistency to get the defense off the field.
We had some blown coverages that NDSU capitalized on. The long play that set up their second touchdown, our safety got lost following a TE across the field (putting him in double coverage). There was another play in the third quarter when it was still close, 3rd and mid-to-long, where one of our linebackers decided to run with a slot receiver 20 yards downfield leaving no one to cover the underneath routes on his side. Sure enough a TE came dragging across the field - Miller picked him up through the middle of the field, then let him go apparently thinking someone else would be there to pick him up. But that linebacker who went running down field ended up double covering the slot with our safety. The pass went to the wide open TE, who had acres to run around in and set up I think their second FG of the game.
I also thought in run defense our LB were getting too close to the DL. There were several times we had LB getting caught up in the wash as they were trying to flow to the RB, and while they were running into our DL backsides the pulling guards and FB were heading towards our safeties.
Watching the game a second time on DVR, using rewind and slo-mo, I don't think our problems are quite as big as I originally thought. I also think NDSU is a better team than any of us gave them credit for. I feel like our defense performed far closer to their ceiling that our offense did. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of improvement on offense from this week to next. But our defense is going to struggle against KSU (I don't think they run as much power stuff as NDSU) and will probably get smoked against Iowa/Weisman.
Our left tackle got abused repeatedly, and our right tackle got abused on occasion. The center and guards seemed to do ok (not great, but not terrible) most of the game. Their LB did a great job getting to their gaps and making plays.
Our WR need to block better. There was one screen play specifically where Lazard put an okay block on the DB and it looked like he was out of the play, but he made a great hustle play to get back in position and tackle Wemberly for no gain. If Lazard had held that block a half second longer, Wemberly had lots of room to run.
In the first half, our defense (especially the line) wasn't responding to the overloaded lines. NDSU was lining up either unbalanced, or with two TE on the same side. There was never a shift to handle the extra gap. Add that to 1-2 pulling linemen and a blocking fullback, and we were playing 5 on 7. Later in the 2nd quarter we started shifting the DL to account for the extra blocker, but the linemen and FB were still outflanking us. Once we started to adjust, they began running to the weak side. We had a few stretches where we'd hold them to only 4-6 yards on 1st and 2nd down, but we couldn't keep the consistency to get the defense off the field.
We had some blown coverages that NDSU capitalized on. The long play that set up their second touchdown, our safety got lost following a TE across the field (putting him in double coverage). There was another play in the third quarter when it was still close, 3rd and mid-to-long, where one of our linebackers decided to run with a slot receiver 20 yards downfield leaving no one to cover the underneath routes on his side. Sure enough a TE came dragging across the field - Miller picked him up through the middle of the field, then let him go apparently thinking someone else would be there to pick him up. But that linebacker who went running down field ended up double covering the slot with our safety. The pass went to the wide open TE, who had acres to run around in and set up I think their second FG of the game.
I also thought in run defense our LB were getting too close to the DL. There were several times we had LB getting caught up in the wash as they were trying to flow to the RB, and while they were running into our DL backsides the pulling guards and FB were heading towards our safeties.
Watching the game a second time on DVR, using rewind and slo-mo, I don't think our problems are quite as big as I originally thought. I also think NDSU is a better team than any of us gave them credit for. I feel like our defense performed far closer to their ceiling that our offense did. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of improvement on offense from this week to next. But our defense is going to struggle against KSU (I don't think they run as much power stuff as NDSU) and will probably get smoked against Iowa/Weisman.
IMO, Sam pretty much gave up in the 3rd quarter. I thought we had a few shots open downfield a couple of times and felt we could have run some more routes deep down the middle. Disappointed with running our routes 1 or 2 yards short of the first down marker on the third downs. We get the completion and still don't make the first down. Disappointed that Bibbs only had one reception. WTF? And our Running game sucks.
Look for the same type of year this year as last year. There is no way Pollard can raise ticket prices next year.
And I was really disappointed that Scheman gets rented out to North Dakota State Alumni Association and gets ALL Public Lots around Hilton, Scheman, etc. for North Dakota State parking and to have a big event on our turf while Iowa State Fans are left scrambling to find whatever area they can get with our Grass Lots largely closed down.
Wonder how much we got for that rental of Scheman? Because North Dakota State used that facility to make a bunch of money and had great parking for their contingent of fans. Nice that we could accomodate them so nicely and give them an easy football win to boot. FCS teams should be paying us to play our team instead of the other way around.
Look for the same type of year this year as last year. There is no way Pollard can raise ticket prices next year.
And I was really disappointed that Scheman gets rented out to North Dakota State Alumni Association and gets ALL Public Lots around Hilton, Scheman, etc. for North Dakota State parking and to have a big event on our turf while Iowa State Fans are left scrambling to find whatever area they can get with our Grass Lots largely closed down.
Wonder how much we got for that rental of Scheman? Because North Dakota State used that facility to make a bunch of money and had great parking for their contingent of fans. Nice that we could accomodate them so nicely and give them an easy football win to boot. FCS teams should be paying us to play our team instead of the other way around.