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He’s not against 12 teams . He’s against auto qualifiers for the p5.Being that the idea of moving to a 12 team playoff was one of the main drivers that killed his conference, I can see why he may now be against it.
If there are no auto qualifiers, there's no gauranteed spot for a big twelve team. That is bad for the big twelve. Especially when the media narrative is we are now a second class conference after OU and UT leave.He’s not against 12 teams . He’s against auto qualifiers for the p5.
I agree that 8 is the ideal playoff #. After all, there are already Conference Championship games.8 teams with 5 AQ is what's best for the Big12. To go to 12 teams helps the SEC separate themselves further by getting a bigger chunk of the CFP pie. Only way 12 should be considered is if the payouts are set are not tied to the at large qualifiers.
If we cant be one of the top six conference champions who gives a **** as we have bigger problems. There is a reason the pac-12 doesn’t like the proposal. They suck.If there are no auto qualifiers, there's no gauranteed spot for a big twelve team. That is bad for the big twelve. Especially when the media narrative is we are now a second class conference after OU and UT leave.
The early signing period should be looked at. Having coaches get fired in October isn't great for the sport. Just because schools want to give new coach a chance to salvage a Dec. recruiting class.He also advocated for a later early signing period, whcih would again, hurt the big 12. This feels short sighted, and he hasn't given us any reason to give him a benefit of the doubt. I don't get why anyone is defending him here.
It is in the other conferences best interest to relegate us to a non power conference. One less person taking the pie. We have to assert ourselves and ensure we have a place at the table. Bowlsby's comments don't inspire confidence in this resepct.If we cant be one of the top six conference champions who gives a **** as we have bigger problems. There is a reason the pac-12 doesn’t like the proposal. They suck.
I frame everything through a "what's best for the B12" lens. The early signing period was to avoid later poaching. We are more likely to be poached than stronger teams. I think the early signing period is good for B12 teams.The early signing period should be looked at. Having coaches get fired in October isn't great for the sport. Just because schools want to give new coach a chance to salvage a Dec. recruiting class.
The article I saw talked about moving early signing date back to after Ntnl Championship game. That wouldn't be the end of the world.
I tend to think signing dates are antiquated. Let kids sign whenever they want after June 1 of their junior year. Create a couple restrictions/player outs:
- Kids can't sign LOI until 72 after visit. So coaches can't pressure kid to sign on visit.
- Let kids break LOI if Head Coach or player's Position Coach leaves.
So you think the B12 presidents and AD's are good with saying the B12 having an AQ to the playoff is a bad thing for the sport? I highly doubt that.Bowlsby is not repping anything that hasn't been cleared with all the ADs and Presidents (excluding the traitors of course). Interesting to watch this delay play itself out. I'm sure it is frustrating the hell out of the $EC.
Bowlsby seems to have confidence we’ll be ok. You are the one being a ***** saying our conference champ won’t be one of the top six conference champs.It is in the other conferences best interest to relegate us to a non power conference. One less person taking the pie. We have to assert ourselves and ensure we have a place at the table. Bowlsby's comments don't inspire confidence in this resepct.
Longer this drags out and gets stagnated, the more pressure the b12 has in drilling the opposition in the lawsuits.
So you're relying on the guy who said he wasn't losing any sleep over conference reorganization less than a week before Texas and Oklahoma left.. Sounds like a great plan. --facepalm--Bowlsby seems to have confidence we’ll be ok. You are the one being a ***** saying our conference champ won’t be one of the top six conference champs.
I just don't see any time where Bowlsby has given us a reason to trust him in these situations. As a side, I'm an attorney and do negotiations on a daily basis... and that's one of the main reasons I'm skeptical and frustrated. Publicly and privately, it doesn't serve you well to undermine your best position.Exactly, by being flexible, he is showing the Big12 is buyable, frankly.
"ESPN, you want 12 teams? Wow, that's not what's best for the sport. BUT we could be convinced! We are going to need a hell of a buyout from OuT and also you better make it rain on our TV contract. Because if you don't, we are going to vote w the Alliance and poke you and the SEC in the eyes."
Big12 can be a swing vote, that makes it marginally rather valuable. Bob is leveraging that.
I don't mean this as an insult, but I know many on this board are younger, maybe not a lot of business/sales/negotiation experience. So this **** dance looks like he is saying something stupid at face value. But what he is really saying ,between the lines, is he will put out -- just not for free.
Sure. JP and the otherADs probably are just sitting home and waiting to see what pops up on ESPN’s ticker. They’re probably as pissed as you are at Bob. Damn, there he goes again.So you think the B12 presidents and AD's are good with saying the B12 having an AQ to the playoff is a bad thing for the sport? I highly doubt that.
Exactly, by being flexible, he is showing the Big12 is buyable, frankly.
"ESPN, you want 12 teams? Wow, that's not what's best for the sport. BUT we could be convinced! We are going to need a hell of a buyout from OuT and also you better make it rain on our TV contract. Because if you don't, we are going to vote w the Alliance and poke you and the SEC in the eyes."
Big12 can be a swing vote, that makes it marginally rather valuable. Bob is leveraging that.
I don't mean this as an insult, but I know many on this board are younger, maybe not a lot of business/sales/negotiation experience. So this **** dance looks like he is saying something stupid at face value. But what he is really saying ,between the lines, is he will put out -- just not for free.