What does Rhoads have to do?
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I actually think this team is talented enough to win six of these last 9 games but I have zero confidence we will even win 5 total which is the most frustrating thing to me.
I was 5-6 wins before the year and I'm still there. I'll tell you what tho. A new coach could be inheriting one of the better defenses in the conference next year. Tucker, Thomas, Harris, Jones, Peavy, Moya, Peters, Harvey, Wiltz all back. With good coaching that defense could be real stout.
You guys sound like we are Nebraska and have to win the conference and have a high end bowl game or its down the road. Look at the facts, we are not the most prized place for a coach to go. We are cold, in the midwest and we have had consecutive losing seasons. How good of a candidate do you really think we are going to get if Rhoads leaves? I really feel the coaching staff is doing all they can. I lay most of the blame on the players who. as Gene Hackman said in the movie the Replacements, "need heart." Talent is there, but no heart.
I had no problem giving Rhoads a mulligan on the last 2 seasons....but I wanted results this year(6-6 at worst), or I felt it was time for a change. Lot of player turnover for 2013, attrition and injuries killed the last 2 years. I felt he was owed that, and had a lot coming back on offense, and a lot of new JUCO faces on defense.
It looks like a lot the last 2 years. I'm not impressed with the offense and all that experience that's not panning out very well. Going to see how the season goes, but short of a bowl, I think I'm ready to move onto a new coach. At this point, Rhoads has to go waaaayyyyy beyond any expectations to reach a bowl.
It looks like a lot the last 2 years. I'm not impressed with the offense and all that experience that's not panning out very well. Going to see how the season goes, but short of a bowl, I think I'm ready to move onto a new coach. At this point, Rhoads has to go waaaayyyyy beyond any expectations to reach a bowl.
I say if Rhoads can get these kids to play a complete game, without a ton of sloppy mistakes per the norm, and win at least 5 games he deserves the next year. I can see development and talent in this years team, just not sure they are growing up fast enough to save CPR.
Agreed! This is why I think a fresh start next year might be good for the program. We already know what ISU will do or not do on offense with a bunch of fresh faces. Lets give the new coach something to good work with on 1 side of the ball.
With the returning pieces this year, I felt Rhoads had a great shot to rebound and get back to a bowl. Hell, if we knew the strides the defense were going to make, I would have all but guaranteed a bowl.....then we got Offense'D again by the ISU offense.....
For me, he would have to win 4 more games for me to even consider possibly keeping him around. And that would depend on how we looked not only in those 4 wins, but also how we looked in our remaining losses as well.
Any more signs of the completely dysfunctional team that we saw Saturday night, and he'd have to go IMO. A lot of it is just the basic simple stuff that we can't even get right that disturbs me the most. I don't think he's lost the team yet, but I just don't understand why the players don't listen or improve under his leadership? It's very disturbing.
Any more signs of the completely dysfunctional team that we saw Saturday night, and he'd have to go IMO. A lot of it is just the basic simple stuff that we can't even get right that disturbs me the most. I don't think he's lost the team yet, but I just don't understand why the players don't listen or improve under his leadership? It's very disturbing.
I don't see anything changing. I constantly go on Twitter hoping to sEe big changes made at ISU only to find they are pumping the same fluff from the Kool-aid factory in Ames. I think I need to see Rhoads removed.
Well, I am of the assumption that since the team is a disorganized mess again that the odds of winning more than 1-2 games are slim.
But, for arguments sake, let's just say that the Iowa game was a one-off due to scheme the offense couldn't figure out. Let's say Toledo was such a ugly mess because all the new players had never played on the road before. And let's say they really start to turn a corner and improve. So essentially, they ARE headed in the right direction, they just didn't get there fast enough in September.
Well, if they managed to win 4 conference games, and be competitive in the losses (ie don't lose by 40 to OU, BU, TCU)... then I guess I could say it would make sense to retain CPR. I would be looking as much at quality of play as I would W/L. Sometimes a good team loses games, and sometimes a lousy team wins games.
I do not see this happening. To expect a change now is triumph of hope over experience. But I suppose anything is possible.
But, for arguments sake, let's just say that the Iowa game was a one-off due to scheme the offense couldn't figure out. Let's say Toledo was such a ugly mess because all the new players had never played on the road before. And let's say they really start to turn a corner and improve. So essentially, they ARE headed in the right direction, they just didn't get there fast enough in September.
Well, if they managed to win 4 conference games, and be competitive in the losses (ie don't lose by 40 to OU, BU, TCU)... then I guess I could say it would make sense to retain CPR. I would be looking as much at quality of play as I would W/L. Sometimes a good team loses games, and sometimes a lousy team wins games.
I do not see this happening. To expect a change now is triumph of hope over experience. But I suppose anything is possible.
If PR can't beat that Iowa team at home or Toledo on the road really, what's the point? The only thing that PR could do for me to want to keep him is go to a bowl and we all know that's not close to happening.
Don't be fooled brothers, 2 wins is this programs new normal with PR at the helm.
I don't think you're crazy, and it would take a 5-4 or 6-3 Big XII record to even consider it and even then I might wait to see what kind of effort is made in a bowl game before commiting to bring him back. I had a small resorvoir of hope leading into Saturday. Basically, all my hope is exhausted after watching him mismanage and mangle 15-16 winnable games the last 3 1/4 seasons.
I would be on board with 5 wins, I think this would show me that he has learned from the mistakes the previous two years and has righted the ship. 4 wins depending on how we did it. Both would also depend on how the staff would look as well.
The thing that concerns me about this is that we will be braking in a new quarterback, which is usually tough for schools like us.
The thing that concerns me about this is that we will be braking in a new quarterback, which is usually tough for schools like us.
That's the thing, I wasn't overly impressed with either Iowa or Toledo. A halfway decent coach would have this ISU team at 3-0 right now.
We had Iowa down 17-10 at the half and it felt like it should have been a bigger advantage than that. And we proceed to not score at all in the 2nd half. And I'm sorry, but I wasn't impressed with that Toledo team that much. They were losing to Stony Brook in week one for a large portion of that game until it was rained out and cancelled. And they were thoroughly dominated by Arkansas and somehow won because Arkansas had like 5 trips in the red zone with no points or something ridiculous like that.
And as it turns out, Arkansas might not be very good at all. TT whipped them good, and TT is nothing special at all. So I'm not sold on everyone thinking Toledo is some really great team. Even we dominated them, and only lost due to horrible coaching.
