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WBB to add 10-second rule?

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Read that if committee recommendation is followed that WBB NCAA will add 10-second backcourt rule for next season. Glad this wasn't in place when we were struggling to get the ball upcourt the last few years!

I wonder if this will just step up the mauling defenses? It was one thing that pushed back a little on the thugging they allowed, it would burn up shot clock and disrupt your offense but it didn't result in a turnover by "rule". Got mixed feelings about this.
 
WhatMeWorry said:
I don't agree with this. 30 second shot clock does its job.
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I pretty much agree with you unless the smart basketball folks who post here can convince me this change is good. It seems like they cannot bring themselves to ref the games per the rules in place so they tweek rules here and there to look like they are keeping things under control.

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Good rule. The men do it. I wish basketball were the same on all levels. Weather it be the NBA game and College or college womens games and the mens. It's the same sport. Should have the same rules at all levels from the high school up with boys and girls.
 
Excellent rule. Now you can play defense down 1 with 28 seconds to go and if you don't get the turnover in the back court THEN you can foul. As an opposing coach now I have to find a way to advance the ball instead of just telling my point guard "only go across the time line if you HAVE to!"
 
Knownothing said:
Good rule. The men do it. I wish basketball were the same on all levels. Weather it be the NBA game and College or college womens games and the mens. It's the same sport. Should have the same rules at all levels from the high school up with boys and girls.
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It sure is going to change high school girls basketball when they are trying to shoot from the NBA three point line.
 
Change it only if they're going to institute a 35 second shot clock like the men's game. Otherwise, I really don't see the point of making the switch at all and it becomes a situation of "changing something because something needed changing." If they can use the same 3 point line, they can use the same ten second rule and shot clock.
 
The men's game shouldn't have a 35 second shot clock but that's besides the point. Hopefully they get that changed in 2015.
 
Stupid rule. It is a part of the women's game that requires strategy just like there are parts of the men's game that do the same. Until the NCAA is willing to crack down on thug defenses this will only make it worse. It will put a premium on great point guards which I don't have a problem with, except that there are not very many out there.
 
its no surprise that KY Matthews, a full court pressing team(thugish), supports this rule change.

In WBB the 10 second line rarely has mattered, except to fans of MBB who occassionally watch WBB. Most WBB teams set their defense, as opposed to play press, but maybe that would change. Personally, I think this rule would be more advantageous to the elite schools who have better athletes and deeper benches.

I have also known some coaches that think defensive that not having the 10 second line is better, because they like making the other teams burn their clock away from the basket, and the press isn't about turnovers as much as not letting offenses get up the court and run sets. So, it is a double edged sword. Ok, force ISU to get into the offensive court quicker(I have no problem with this).
 
They have the rule in high school. They have the rule in the WNBA. I've never understood why they don't have the rule in college (and I don't buy the whole "30-second shot clock does the job" argument, if that was the case, men's hoops wouldn't have a 10-second rule; heck, the NBA has only a 24-second shot clock, and they have an 8-second rule for getting across the time line). This also isn't the same as arguing the three-point line. It makes sense for high school, college and then pro to have lines that gradually move back, and it makes sense physically speaking to have the women's line a little shorter than the men's.

But with the 10-second rule, you have something that it a rule in some form at every level except one. I would say a lot of women's college teams don't press more often because they can't force a 10-second call--or, more importantly, they can't force the turnover that comes when the offense is trying to avoid the 10-second call. If you add the rule, more teams will press and you'll get more up-and-down action. That's how I see it. More teams will make mistakes and commit more turnovers, too, but it just puts a premium on good ballhandling. To me, that's a good thing.
 
CycloneCentral said:
They have the rule in high school. They have the rule in the WNBA. I've never understood why they don't have the rule in college (and I don't buy the whole "30-second shot clock does the job" argument, if that was the case, men's hoops wouldn't have a 10-second rule; heck, the NBA has only a 24-second shot clock, and they have an 8-second rule for getting across the time line). This also isn't the same as arguing the three-point line. It makes sense for high school, college and then pro to have lines that gradually move back, and it makes sense physically speaking to have the women's line a little shorter than the men's.

But with the 10-second rule, you have something that it a rule in some form at every level except one. I would say a lot of women's college teams don't press more often because they can't force a 10-second call--or, more importantly, they can't force the turnover that comes when the offense is trying to avoid the 10-second call. If you add the rule, more teams will press and you'll get more up-and-down action. That's how I see it. More teams will make mistakes and commit more turnovers, too, but it just puts a premium on good ballhandling. To me, that's a good thing.
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Question on your a alumni band picture, is that Lorna Livingston in the front? Looks like her but hard to tell at this scale.
 
CycloneCentral said:
If you add the rule, more teams will press and you'll get more up-and-down action.
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The first part yes, the last part no. You'll see more press and you'll see the game reduced to a physical level that is unbearable to watch. The thug teams will thrive, the elite teams will thrive and those that depend on solid, fundamental basketball will be reduced to irrelevance. We fall into that last category. Good basketball will disappear just like it has in the NBA.
 
I enjoy when they sit in the backcourt for 20 seconds though and then run up and heave up a 3.
 
I think the shot clock takes care of things, and I like the lack of a backcourt rule. I wish the men's rule was the same. For one thing, it is just another arbitrary timing thing that the three officials need to do and be consistent with, and as for the thug ball aspect, I agree too. I am a believer in rules changes when there is a problem.. and against those that just complicate things. Case in point... I HATE the cute little arc under the basket (the no-charge zone). Not only arbitrary to call, men or women, but what does it really solve? Not much in my book.

Just my opinion.
 
If this encourages more full-court pressure, I'm all for it. I wish we were a little more physical on the defensive end, and would start playing an honest man-to-man defense. If this helps, hooray!
 
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