WBB: Misc thread, polls, opponents games, regional stuff
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New polls out to. Baylor is only ranked Big 12 team now.
Big 10 is down to four now, all in the high teens or 20's. Think Iowa might win it after falling just short last year to Maryland. Senior guards and their soph post stepped up this year. They have an unreal knack of coming behind in the 4th quarter. They sort of own the 4th.
The hoks had been tied for first place with Northwestern, but the Wildcats lost over the weekend. Ugh. They also waited an entire 10 months to retire Megan Gustafson's jersey. There really needs to be a 'puke' emoji when Iowa and specifically anything Bluder is mentioned.New polls out to. Baylor is only ranked Big 12 team now.
Big 10 is down to four now, all in the high teens or 20's. Think Iowa might win it after falling just short last year to Maryland. Senior guards and their soph post stepped up this year. They have an unreal knack of coming behind in the 4th quarter. They sort of own the 4th.
ISU's updated RealtimeRPI numbers:
54 RPI, 29 SOS
So, improvements in both with the loss to Baylor. The SOS is a big boost.
Realtime hasn't bothered to fix their schedule for ISU. I've written them twice telling them to fix it, but they don't seem to care. It seems unlikely that ISU would play AT DePaul, AT Duke, AND host WVU all on February 2nd. ISU shows up on the schedule pages of the other two schools as well. Some people just don't take pride in their work.
54 RPI, 29 SOS
So, improvements in both with the loss to Baylor. The SOS is a big boost.
Realtime hasn't bothered to fix their schedule for ISU. I've written them twice telling them to fix it, but they don't seem to care. It seems unlikely that ISU would play AT DePaul, AT Duke, AND host WVU all on February 2nd. ISU shows up on the schedule pages of the other two schools as well. Some people just don't take pride in their work.
Realtime hasn't bothered to fix their schedule for ISU. I've written them twice telling them to fix it, but they don't seem to care. It seems unlikely that ISU would play AT DePaul, AT Duke, AND host WVU all on February 2nd. ISU shows up on the schedule pages of the other two schools as well. Some people just don't take pride in their work.
My guess is it'll automatically get fixed on Feb 3rd when it's clear those games didn't happen.
Yesterday's ESPN Bracketology lists Iowa State in the "next four out" group, which is an improvement from not being mentioned at all. Included in that group with ISU are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado. The Big 12 is projected with four teams in at this point, so there is some room to work into a scenario with five or six teams making the cut. There would likely be a lot of less-than-ideal seeds, though. Just food for thought this afternoon.
Sort of a 10 game "season" coming up. Go 6-4 and we look to be in. Go 5-5 and we are bubble bound and holding our breath during the selection show. Go 4-6 and we are NIT. (IMHO)
Lot might depend on how we recover from some of the injuries we've had. Scott early (seems good to go now), Wise till just this last week and now Johnson. Good news for us is that once you get below Baylor everyone is beatable. No one else is even ranked. We just need to beat em', don't need "help", just get the wins.
The Pac 12 has four schools in the top 10 with both Arizona universities in the top 20 (both polls).
The polls are split between Baylor (Coaches) and South Carolina (AP) at the #1 team, a fairly rare occurrence.
Ashley Joens picked up her fourth Big 12 Player of the Week award of the season on Monday (again, I missed it and am not sure anyone else posted about it). Joens shares the award with OSU's Vivian Gray.
https://big12sports.com/news/2020/1...ray-jones-and-lee-pick-up-week-12-awards.aspx
https://big12sports.com/news/2020/1...ray-jones-and-lee-pick-up-week-12-awards.aspx
And OSU is still playing w/o Natasha Mack who got hurt early in the game at Hilton. Now it looks like their other front court gal is out to.
Makes me wonder if Joens continues on this track and picks up 3-4 more POW awards will she follow Bridget as POY or get shafted because she's playing on a mid level Big 12 squad?
I know. I think if ISU can string together a few wins and finish in the top 4, she might have a good chance at giving the Cyclones a repeat. But I think there needs to be an upset or two to get people outside of the state of Iowa to believe. If that happens, expect to see Fennelly campaigning for her just as his did for Carleton last season during every press conference.
Baylor played at Texas Friday night and won, 64-44. Texas managed 5 points in the 3rd quarter (with the Bears scoring 23 that same period).
#16 Arizona handed #8 UCLA just their second loss of the year in Tucson, clubbing the Bruins 92-66.
#11 DePaul lost at home to unranked Creighton, 63-61.
#24 Missouri State moved into a tie for the top spot (in the MVC) after hammering previously undefeated Bradley in Springfield, 90-56. Both programs are now 7-1, one game ahead of Drake. Drake and UNI both won games last night as well.
#16 Arizona handed #8 UCLA just their second loss of the year in Tucson, clubbing the Bruins 92-66.
#11 DePaul lost at home to unranked Creighton, 63-61.
#24 Missouri State moved into a tie for the top spot (in the MVC) after hammering previously undefeated Bradley in Springfield, 90-56. Both programs are now 7-1, one game ahead of Drake. Drake and UNI both won games last night as well.
League stats only:
Joens, 4th in scoring 19.1 behind Gray, Taylor, Heard
Joens, 4th in rebounding 9.4 behind Lee, Williams, Collier, Brewer. OSU's Mack would be leader if she hadn't gotten injured.
In scoring and rebounding the competition is all from non-ranked teams. Joens is still averaging a double/double in all games (just missing in Big 12 play) and doing it as a wing playing like a power forward at times. I am focusing on the "prove it" stats in league and not the BS NC stats since the SOS of those team-to-team makes a direct comparison too compromised IMHO.
Should be interesting if she keeps this up. Good a shot any anyone right now, maybe better than most. League is full of average teams and the individual leaders are lots of players from average or bubble like teams sio I think that might minimize the top teams bias that MVP-ish awards seem to suffer from at times. The only ranked team is elite Baylor and they don't have a star that turning heads with stats. They do have Lauren Cox who doesn't lead stats but she just does everything without leading categories. Four of the last five POY's went to players not from Baylor and without a paper stats sort of player I won't be surprised to see it not be a Bear this year. And, I don't totally buy into the strength of the bias to the best team. The best teams are the best teams because they usually have the best players and are going to dominate the awards.
Working against Joens is that she is a sophomore. And, although it should not matter, the voters are humans and "we" got the award last year with a senior. So, we will see.
Edit: Only three sophomores have won POY, Courtney Paris, Brittney Griner and Nina Davis. Paris and Griner won it three years each (hard to argue those) and Davis just that one time.
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I had to look Nina Davis up. Couldn't even remember when she played, let alone *who* she played for. Must just be me getting old since it wasn't that long ago.
She did have a great sophomore year. 21 ppg 8 rbg, not unlike what Joens is doing as soph also.
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