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undersized_post said:
Ohio State had come back from a 24 point margin the day prior. Considering that, Iowa undoubtably made the right decision to keep the rotation tight until midway through the fourth. Clark still only played 33min which is less than her season average as well as less than Joens, Ryan, and Donarski's averages, for context.

Usually folks talk about stat padding in relation to points, but Clark only attempted 1 shot in the entire fourth quarter. So, is she not supposed to grab the ball if it bounces to her off the rim, because rebounding in that situation is "stat padding"? Is she not supposed to pass the ball to an open teammate in scoring position because it's selfish for her to get an assist? Like... ?
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Do whatever you have to do to rationalize it.

Ohio State was down 24 in the first half of the Indiana game. Big difference between that and being down 30 in the fourth quarter.

I'm sure it's also entirely coincidental that she was pulled after recording the triple-double.

Like I said before, we all saw Kim Mulkey pull the same stuff repeatedly at Baylor -- so we know it when we see it other places.
 
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acoustimac said:
My step son and his buddy are hawk fans. Thy claim Clark is cocky and confident versus being a whiner. I suppose that is the homer viewpoint. I agree that she is one of the most gifted players I’ve seen in a long time, but the whining and complaining just turn me off. If I had to choose between her, Buekers, Boston, Joens etc to build a team around…she wouldn’t make my top 3-4. That being said…if she had committed to ISU I firmly believe Coach wouldn’t tolerate her antics. That alone would elevate her on my list.
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Fennelly absolutely would not tolerate Clark's on-court antics the way Frau Bluder does. Had she chosen ISU, either we'd see someone with VERY different demeanor wearing #22 or she'd have transferred after her freshman season to find a coach who would allow her to more regularly exercise poor judgment in sportsmanship and self-control.

It should be pointed out that being "cocky" and a "whiner" are not always on opposite ends of the spectrum. In the body of many an Iowa Hawkeye, they are quite frequently the same circle in that particular Venn diagram.
 
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farm85 said:


Jacks have a deep bench. Fun team to watch & could be a dangerous team to meet in the tourney. They beat KSU earlier in the season.
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What is the recipe for success of nearby smaller programs like South Dakota State (less than half the size of Iowa State), Creighton (4,500 students), and maybe Drake (4,000)? Pride alone and small donors won't do it.
 
Buster28 said:
Fennelly absolutely would not tolerate Clark's on-court antics the way Frau Bluder does. Had she chosen ISU, either we'd see someone with VERY different demeanor wearing #22 or she'd have transferred after her freshman season to find a coach who would allow her to more regularly exercise poor judgment in sportsmanship and self-control.

It should be pointed out that being "cocky" and a "whiner" are not always on opposite ends of the spectrum. In the body of many an Iowa Hawkeye, they are quite frequently the same circle in that particular Venn diagram.
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If this is an accurate projection, and Clark was "bridled," would Bill's style then make her more successful? It would certainly make her more palatable to some fans.
 
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StClone said:
What is the recipe for success of nearby smaller programs like South Dakota State (less than half the size of Iowa State), Creighton (4,500 students), and maybe Drake (4,000)? Pride alone and small donors won't do it.
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Without doing a deep roster dive, I think it is you get kids who want to be at the school then just build team cohesiveness through roster depth and age. Let's be honest there isn't very much NIL money to throw around on WBB/VB. Of the 3 schools you mentioned I would guess only Creighton would the one to put up NIL money. SDSU also won their division FB national championship in 2022. They've been solid athletically for a while now.
 
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What is the recipe for success of nearby smaller programs like South Dakota State (less than half the size of Iowa State), Creighton (4,500 students), and maybe Drake (4,000)? Pride alone and small donors won't do it.
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Aaron Johnston, SDSU coach, has been there for 23 years. Winning percentage: .752/helped the team transition from Div 2 to Div 1. Seems to do well with recruiting & emphasizes defense. Fun to watch the team's style of play.

He was offered a job at Wisconsin/GB in 2007 & decided to stay at SDSU. He has been mentioned in the coaching search at Minnesota.

www.argusleader.com

Whitney: Why didn't Aaron Johnston leave SDSU? He saw a path to mid-major glory.

With regional talent and a team-first approach, surging Jackrabbits take aim at their next NCAA challenge.
www.argusleader.com

"Making national noise with regional talent, A.J. prioritizes players within 500 miles of Brookings who are versatile playmakers, exemplary students and don’t mind placing team success over individual glory".
 
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farm85 said:
Aaron Johnston, SDSU coach, has been there for 23 years. Winning percentage: .752/helped the team transition from Div 2 to Div 1. Seems to do well with recruiting & emphasizes defense. Fun to watch the team's style of play.

He was offered a job at Wisconsin/GB in 2007 & decided to stay at SDSU. He has been mentioned in the coaching search at Minnesota.

www.argusleader.com

Whitney: Why didn't Aaron Johnston leave SDSU? He saw a path to mid-major glory.

With regional talent and a team-first approach, surging Jackrabbits take aim at their next NCAA challenge.
www.argusleader.com

"Making national noise with regional talent, A.J. prioritizes players within 500 miles of Brookings who are versatile playmakers, exemplary students and don’t mind placing team success over individual glory".
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When you read that whole article it sounds a lot like what TJ says when he talks about his longterm vision for ISU.
 
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NWICY said:
When you read that whole article it sounds a lot like what TJ says when he talks about his longterm vision for ISU.
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Yep, but the 2019 article also makes a reference about TJ leaving SDSU to go to UNLV. Applebee's even had an Otzel burger on the menu in Brookings.

Chris Bono also coached at SDSU before taking the Wisconsin job....
 
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farm85 said:
Yep, but the 2019 article also makes a reference about TJ leaving SDSU to go to UNLV. Applebee's even had an Otzel burger on the menu in Brookings.

Chris Bono also coached at SDSU before taking the Wisconsin job....
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Yep I understand that, but I'm hoping Tj has found his spot at ISU. Top half of the conference make the tourney consistently with some sweet 16s or maybe something better occasionally. I just thought that article sounds a lot like Tj and ISU.
 
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Wyoming up 32-28 at halftime. If Wyoming can keep getting it to their star post I like their chances if she gets position on the block it's almost a bucket every time.
 
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