I expect there are some men who want to have sex with a trans woman but want to tell themselves they were tricked into it. They wouldn't want to be told flat-out their companion was a male. A lot of non-verbal communica5tion and room for misunderstandings.
VT Freshman Charged with Murder
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I agree with activists that the "Freak-out, loss of control" defense in such cases is bogus. It's murder, even if first degree murder can't be proved.
The Michigan stuff is there with PSU and MSU. The difference is that no one is still alive to fight so all they can really do are make reparation's with victims and take down names/statues. Hopefully they handle it better than previous institutions. If not, I guess that's one less team to pay attention to.
Based on the information that's been reported, by definition the crime isn't Murder in the 1st degree or Capital Murder in Virginia so it's not really a matter of being proven. Based on the facts it will be a matter of Murder in the 2nd degree, Voluntary Manslaughter, or Involuntary Manslaughter.
The most sympathetic set of facts for the accused (the catfishing scenario where they didn't know the identity of the deceased until the second encounter) could result in a Manslaughter conviction. In my opinion, there are several more likely sets of facts, most of which would lead to a Murder in the 2nd degree conviction.
VA Homocide Laws | Murder & Manslaughter Charges
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Summary, not the actual code, but “brutality” doesn’t appear to matter. He’s been charged with 2nd degree (5-40 years), and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it pled down to Voluntary Manslaughter (1-10 years). Given the limited information that we have, either seems appropriate.
I think this is where the Tinder profile becomes problematic. I would agree with you if this whole thing took place at a bar it is a different scenario. If someone is initiates something in that setting I think it's more reasonable to not have to disclose your birth gender and you can assume if they are attracted to you they are just that.
But on Tinder I'd imagine you have options as to how you hold yourself out to others, and you shouldn't be purposefully misleading.
People have a moral obligation to be honest on Tinder? I think your reasonable expectation should be that you see what shows up and deal with it.
1-10 seems wildly inappropriate. Many states have provisions for extended sentences if there are aggravating circumstances. Prosecutors should go for 2nd degree and only offer a more moderate sentence in a plea deal.VA Homocide Laws | Murder & Manslaughter Charges
Few charges are as serious at homicide in Virginia. If you are facing a charge of murder or manslaughter, call Karin Riley Porter for a free consultation.
Summary, not the actual code, but “brutality” doesn’t appear to matter. He’s been charged with 2nd degree (5-40 years), and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it pled down to Voluntary Manslaughter (1-10 years). Given the limited information that we have, either seems appropriate.
I think we can acknowledge this scenario is a little different than saying your 6'3" when you're actually 6'1", can't we?
I don't disagree with the premise necessarily, but I think it comes down to intent. Are you trying to attract a straight person that you know likely wouldn't want a sexual encounter with a trans person through deceit, or is it an honest mistaken understanding?
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There's no correct side and I have made no attempt to paint you as any sort of ****** in this. My issue isn't with you discussing what led this guy to respond how he did, I think we all understand why he did. I apologize if you felt I was attacking you or the point you were making. that was not my intention.
My point is that this type of macho overreaction of bashing someone's head in is what happens when we spend so much time making "well if that ever happened to me I'd kick their ass" a valid response to these types of situations. The constant passive support of violent reactions to situations results in people doing exactly what happened here.
What should have happened was that the guy should have called the cops and reported it as a sexual assault but can you imagine how he would have been treated by family, friends, teammates etc... if he had actually done that? Some people respect childish violent overreactions much more than they respect doing the harder, right thing.
That would be something if Michigan actually decides that the Bo statue can no longer stand outside the Big House.
I don't know how they don't at this point but sports fans are weird so who knows.
I hadn't been following this case, but was surprised to see him found not guilty the other day. Curious as well to see if he plays football again.
I've followed the case as well. Its an unusual case, as the defense his team used was outlawed by the state. However, the crime took place before the "effective" date of the law, and thus he was able to use it.
Apparently "gay panic" was a viable defense at one time, and in a lot of other states.
More info: https://vpm.org/news/articles/32412...tested-as-former-tech-football-player-goes-to
I legitimately didn't know that "I'm so homophobic it made me temporarily insane" was an actual defense, even for killing someone. Humans continue to surprise me every day.
