The 46W4100 is about the same price as the 52V4100. The only difference I noticed was the V doesn't have 120Hz which doesn't mean anything when it comes to watching TV according to what I read was transmitted via signals. True?
Vizio HDTV
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It would be in our living room, which during the day has quite a bit of natural light as we have 5 windows.
You may want to consider the Samsung 630. Basically the same TV as the 650 but with a matte screen which will reduce reflections. If you are a movie or sports watcher I think 120 Hz is the way to go but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a must. I had already decided on 120 Hz since I will buying later and the price difference won't be as dramatic. If I was buying now I would research the difference between 60 Hz and 120 Hz further.
Short answer...not sure.
The 52" Sony looks like a great deal. Where can you get that deal at?
Short answer...not sure.
The 52" Sony looks like a great deal. Where can you get that deal at?
Back to the original question.
Are you going to be using HD in this bedroom?
Is size/weight a consideration?
The reason I ask is for this reason. In my bedroom, I don't have HD access and I'm putting the TV in an armoire so weight,depth, etc. is not an issue. For this type of situation I would consider a good old fashion CRT for a couple of reasons.
Cheap-No one wants them anymore because they are not thin
Reliability-Long proven technology
Picture-Most of the time they actually look better with SD content than either a plasma or LCD.
If it's a case where you're going to put it on the wall or something then this is a different story but just wanted to throw out this option.
That's what I thought. They throw in Blu-ray players often. Good service from what I've found. Those prices change often so if you want that price you may have to pull the trigger soon. At least the Samsungs change daily.
Samsung seems to be the big seller in LCD's so you hear the most about them. On AVS forums, most seem to be pretty happy but there are some big debates on Samsung using different panels on the same models and some are supposedly inferior.
Here is one of the posts discussing this.
Samsung S, A, C panels on current line-up of LCD TV. Any thruth to the difference? - AVS Forum
Here is one of the posts discussing this.
Samsung S, A, C panels on current line-up of LCD TV. Any thruth to the difference? - AVS Forum
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Ok, the component wires you speak of, should replace your coax cable immediately. (coax is obsolete in HDTV's-throw that thing away!) In other words, instead of running a coax cable from your cable or/satellite box, you can purchase a Component Video+RCA Audio cable (I prefer the Belkin brand) and run them from your control box to your HDTV. Remove your coax cable for good when you do this.
Most HDTV's will have jacks to facilitate up to two components (a cable box & DVR/BLUERAY).
Trust me, I used my coax along with a newly purchased HDMI cord, for two days with my new HDTV, thinking this was the best I could get. Wrong, the quality sucked compared to what you can get! I'm not pushing the issue because I have any stake in this matter either way, I'm just trying to use personal experience into the equation. No harm, no foul:smile:
As far as the FCC website is concerned, looking for a particular topic is literally trying to find a needle in a haystack, unless you know where to look. Mass Media, (the FCC outlet that conducts various studies and statistical reports for the commission to review), is where you need to look for the study you seek. However, a report dated as recently os 01.16.09, shows a study on connections for HD level products and goods that increase the level of quailty for HD consumers. Case in point: {Component Video+RCA Audio Cable and it's improvement over coax" commission review 01.16.09}
As far as gold plated connections are concerned, it's a personal opinion. Although, scientific studies prove gold is a better conductor in electronics than cooper..
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A couple of clarifications.
#1 I never said I use coax. As a matter of fact, I've only used HDMI since it's introduction.
#2 You are completely correct that component (That's what you're talking about when you say RCA) is better than using a coax cable. This isn't rocket science or something I need to look up on the FCC site.
In short, I guess I was being a jerk today. I know all about the A/V connections since I have an SACD player, PS3, Denon mulit-room A/V reciever,Outlaw amp, Panasonic AE3000 1080p projector displayed at 100", NHT 5.1 speakers system, Directv HR20 HD DVR, Slingbox, etc.
What I was trying to gather from you is why you would use both component cables as well as HDMI???????????????????????????????????
#1 I never said I use coax. As a matter of fact, I've only used HDMI since it's introduction.
#2 You are completely correct that component (That's what you're talking about when you say RCA) is better than using a coax cable. This isn't rocket science or something I need to look up on the FCC site.
In short, I guess I was being a jerk today. I know all about the A/V connections since I have an SACD player, PS3, Denon mulit-room A/V reciever,Outlaw amp, Panasonic AE3000 1080p projector displayed at 100", NHT 5.1 speakers system, Directv HR20 HD DVR, Slingbox, etc.
What I was trying to gather from you is why you would use both component cables as well as HDMI???????????????????????????????????
Went to Walmat and checked out the Vizio. I was disappointed. Could not get any reds out of it like the Samsung, Sony, Sanyo seemed to have on right next to it. I monkeyed with the contrasts and didn't seem to make much difference.
Looks like I'm back to looking at a Samsung, Sony or Panasonic.
No rush to buy, so will see if any deals come down the pipe pre or post Superbowl.
Looks like I'm back to looking at a Samsung, Sony or Panasonic.
No rush to buy, so will see if any deals come down the pipe pre or post Superbowl.
If I remember correctly, a few months ago LG sued Vizio over some Plasma technology so I don't think so but I know a lot of companies do build for others so you never really know what you're getting.
I am guessing he is using them for separate components because otherwise I would be just as confused.
I use HDMI for my cable box, DVD player and stereo setup and component cables for the Wii and the 360 with TOSLINK cables for audio on everything but the Wii.
I'm right with you dmclone. As someone who knows a lot about this stuff, his posts have had me scratching my head.
Trust me, I used my coax along with a newly purchased HDMI cord
Why and how would you use coax alongside HDMI? Are you talking about an audio cable? I believe one poster was using the coax cable from the cable company to his digital tuner to get some clearQAM stations. Those channels should be great in terms of clarity.
They could be made by LG. They could be made by Sony or about anyone. Vizio tends to use whoever is cheap that day. Also explains why some people love their Vizio and other people don't.
If you're obtaining an HD signal through an HDMI cord only you're not getting the full affect of HD, plain and simple. Go to any store (who knows what they're talking about, IE: Traviss audio, Stogdill's, etc.) and they will tell you the exact same thing. My HDTV requires both
You're right this isn't rocket science, far from it. However, you did ask for my source of information, when I told you about the Mass Media's reseach study on RCA components vs. Coax.
Why would I use another component with an HDMI cord? Because that's what my personal research and personal experience determined and the recommendations of the manufacturer of my TV.
Remember, you can take my suggestions and opinions with a grain of salt and for what they may be worth to you. I was giving my personal experience to the original poster and offering my own opinions on the Vizio and HD as a whole. His first post is an open ended question of opinions only, and that's what I've offered.
Sorry that you and I had this misunderstanding
You're right this isn't rocket science, far from it. However, you did ask for my source of information, when I told you about the Mass Media's reseach study on RCA components vs. Coax.
Why would I use another component with an HDMI cord? Because that's what my personal research and personal experience determined and the recommendations of the manufacturer of my TV.
Remember, you can take my suggestions and opinions with a grain of salt and for what they may be worth to you. I was giving my personal experience to the original poster and offering my own opinions on the Vizio and HD as a whole. His first post is an open ended question of opinions only, and that's what I've offered.
Sorry that you and I had this misunderstanding
Sorry but this wrong. HDMI is the best for transmission of both audio and video period. If someone at one of these stores tell you something different than I would tell them that they are idiots and I would walk out the door.
OK, I was being a little strong on this statement. I would like them to explain it to me first why a component connection would be better than HDMI for either audio or video. Maybe there is some rare exception I've never heard of before..........
There is no need to run component in addition to HDMI.
OK, I was being a little strong on this statement. I would like them to explain it to me first why a component connection would be better than HDMI for either audio or video. Maybe there is some rare exception I've never heard of before..........
There is no need to run component in addition to HDMI.
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