Used SUV advice

Minivans get a lot of grief from the cool police, but they are hands down the most utilitarian vehicle available. Our Grand Caravan hauls our three kids (one booster, two car seats), our 100 pound German shephard and not-so-mini dachshund, and enough luggage for a long weekend. Keep in mind luggage for us involves all the crap necessary for three kids less than 4 years old - bath seat, plastic training toilet, 2X as many cloths as necessary, toys, diapers, snacks, drinks, etc etc. And it can also haul a good size boat or popup camper (5000 lb trailer limit).

It does better in the snow than our AWD Honda CR-V did just because it's heavier and has a little better ground clearance. I've used it to haul (6) 4'x8' sheets of plywood before. The third row seating is big enough to be usable for our girls as they get older. When we were looking at SUVs with third row seats, they are usually tiny unless you go the Suburban/Excursion route. So far we're averaging about 23 mpg (we have the 3.3L flex fuel engine, usually run the cheap 89 octane ethanol blended gas). It's got 31k miles in about 1.5 years of ownership.

I'm not going to pretend it's cool, and I have a lot more fun driving my truck. But it is the most versatile vehicle I've ever driven.
 
Minivans get a lot of grief from the cool police, but they are hands down the most utilitarian vehicle available. Our Grand Caravan hauls our three kids (one booster, two car seats), our 100 pound German shephard and not-so-mini dachshund, and enough luggage for a long weekend. Keep in mind luggage for us involves all the crap necessary for three kids less than 4 years old - bath seat, plastic training toilet, 2X as many cloths as necessary, toys, diapers, snacks, drinks, etc etc. And it can also haul a good size boat or popup camper (5000 lb trailer limit).

It does better in the snow than our AWD Honda CR-V did just because it's heavier and has a little better ground clearance. I've used it to haul (6) 4'x8' sheets of plywood before. The third row seating is big enough to be usable for our girls as they get older. When we were looking at SUVs with third row seats, they are usually tiny unless you go the Suburban/Excursion route. So far we're averaging about 23 mpg (we have the 3.3L flex fuel engine, usually run the cheap 89 octane ethanol blended gas). It's got 31k miles in about 1.5 years of ownership.

I'm not going to pretend it's cool, and I have a lot more fun driving my truck. But it is the most versatile vehicle I've ever driven.

Even though I'd never own one, I agree. We always rent one on trips to Colorado and they are very handy and have a lot more room than an SUV. This is probably why minivans have some of the highest repurchase rates. If I would have decided to have kids I would have bought one. Another plus is they are very stealth. We average around 90mph going to CO and police rarely give you a 2nd look.
 
Minivans get a lot of grief from the cool police, but they are hands down the most utilitarian vehicle available. Our Grand Caravan hauls our three kids (one booster, two car seats), our 100 pound German shephard and not-so-mini dachshund, and enough luggage for a long weekend. Keep in mind luggage for us involves all the crap necessary for three kids less than 4 years old - bath seat, plastic training toilet, 2X as many cloths as necessary, toys, diapers, snacks, drinks, etc etc. And it can also haul a good size boat or popup camper (5000 lb trailer limit).

It does better in the snow than our AWD Honda CR-V did just because it's heavier and has a little better ground clearance. I've used it to haul (6) 4'x8' sheets of plywood before. The third row seating is big enough to be usable for our girls as they get older. When we were looking at SUVs with third row seats, they are usually tiny unless you go the Suburban/Excursion route. So far we're averaging about 23 mpg (we have the 3.3L flex fuel engine, usually run the cheap 89 octane ethanol blended gas). It's got 31k miles in about 1.5 years of ownership.

I'm not going to pretend it's cool, and I have a lot more fun driving my truck. But it is the most versatile vehicle I've ever driven.

Been there, done that and agree.:yes:

Our kids are now 7,5, 3 and I can say we don't have to haul as much "stuff" anymore.

Just hauled several 4 x 8 sheets in back last weekend. Very handy.

I've got a Honda Odyssey and my wife and I both love it.
 
Jeeps are great until you have to drive them. What a POS car company.

I have to agree. I drove my nephews 2 month old Jeep Wrangler and it may be the worse vehicle on the road. I'm sure it would be fine off road but it was severely under-powered, noisy, rough riding, terrible gas mileage, etc. I really can't think of one thing I liked about it.

I'm sure the other Jeeps are a lot better but wow I was disappointed by the wrangler.
 
I have to agree. I drove my nephews 2 month old Jeep Wrangler and it may be the worse vehicle on the road. I'm sure it would be fine off road but it was severely under-powered, noisy, rough riding, terrible gas mileage, etc. I really can't think of one thing I liked about it.

I'm sure the other Jeeps are a lot better but wow I was disappointed by the wrangler.

Go give an SRT-8 a spin. It is an amazing machine. It's gas hungry (9 & 12 I think), but it's TREMENDOUS in every other aspect. Doesn't even have the feel of an SUV.
 
Have to vote for Jeep.

We're on our second Jeep Grand Cherokee, both bought used. Bought a '99 in '02 with 62K and drove it to 205K. Sold it in '08 on Ebay for $4200 to Jesus (I am so not kidding) It ran like a top with minimal issues.

In '08 we bough an '04 with 36K on it. We've got 86K on it today and it's doing great.

Don't get the small motor - get the 4.7 V8 - it's been great to us.

And (!) when you go to Buffett concerts you can attach a big shark fin to the luggage rack...
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A couple weeks ago I rented a Grand Cherokee (2010 model) to drive to the Twin Cities for work. It was a Laredo so the features were nice, but the footwell was too narrow and I couldn't stay comfortable on only a 3.5 hour drive. I'm only 5'9", and I couldn't get my legs anywhere but straight out in front of me. I assume it had the smaller engine, as it felt a bit underpowered. From what I remember of my friend's parent's older one, I'd check you carseat in the back seat before buying. Make sure someone can sit comfortably in the passenger seat when the car seat is rear-facing.

Every Subaru we looked at before buying the van had car seat fitment issues, and I know a couple people who had to get rid of their Subies after having kids because of it.
 
When we were raising our 3 kids, we went through 6 Dodge Grand Caravans and they were awesome. Comfortable to sit and drive long distances for a big guy and for some reason I could tune out the in-vehicle pandomanium that my wife was overseeing. Front wheel drive and weight of vehicle worked well on our sloppy gravel road that is an issue half the time. Very reliable. Only product that Chrysler produces that has been long term successful. Saved Lee Iaccoa's arse in the first govt. bailout.
 
I have to agree. I drove my nephews 2 month old Jeep Wrangler and it may be the worse vehicle on the road. I'm sure it would be fine off road but it was severely under-powered, noisy, rough riding, terrible gas mileage, etc. I really can't think of one thing I liked about it.

I'm sure the other Jeeps are a lot better but wow I was disappointed by the wrangler.

I am on my 2nd Jeep, this time a 4dr Jeep Wrangler, and I love it. If it was a 2 dr, of course it will be rough riding, it's not a Cadillac, it is a very short vehicle so you feel more of the road. They have smaller v6 in them, they are not race cars, easy enough power to get on and off the interstate ect. Was it a hardtop? The new hardtops are pretty much silent, cant speak for the soft tops. The Gas mileage part is something I cant argue w/, but my last 3 vehicles have gotten 12mpg, 16mpg, and this gets 18mpg, my other vehicle gets about 8mpg, so I am happy. Plus the top and doors come off and chicks love them. They are what they are, and for those of us who dont mind a few bumps, they are the best.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone, dmclone, you had some really good stuff. I love that about this site. We haven't decided on a car yet but will keep you posted.
 
Yep just trading in my 01 Monte Carlo for a 02 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 39K yes 39K

I love the Cherokees they just ride so nice, and they do well in the winter on the roads.
 

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