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OU and Texas both rebuilding heading in to the SEC would be perfect. It would also be great if next year neither made the CCG either.
 
You just made the case that you have to bring it every week except maybe Kansas. And how did that turn out for Texas? Round Robin is severely underrated.
Literally made fun of Texas at the end of that sentence.

look people the SEC is what it is. The proof is in the pudding and the Big 12 is not the SEC. And that’s ok because it’s way better than the PAC and ACC.
 
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So does this affect the timeline for their move then? Any chance the SEC lets the rebuild happen in the Big12 for a couple years so they aren't damaged goods in year 1? They don't have to start in the SEC until 2025, right?
 
Folks are mixing Liquid Drano with their Frescas if they think the SEC isn’t the best conference by far in college football. It’s not even a discussion.
There is way too much parity for such superlatives.

It is not the best by far. It has 14 teams, with only 8 conference games, and uneven scheduling, Bama skews the Bayesian network that is perception in CFB.

UF once thought to be a very good team this year because they hung with Bama and have good recruits. This exemplifies why people get carried away and make statements like it is easily the best with no discussion.

I think it is easily the best in terms of prestige and perception. It has the best brand. But it generally is one team different than the Big 12. That team being Bama.
 
I will also add to those who think the Big 12 and SEC are not so different that this thread and countless others since the OU and UT announcement was made they are leaving has been claiming both better enjoy the money because you can kiss winning titles goodbye and may even fall into a lot more mediocre to decent years. Hmmmm why is that claim being made if the SEC is not better than the Big 12? Because OU has owned this conference for years with little push back aside from a game here and there.
 
There is way too much parity for such superlatives.

It is not the best by far. It has 14 teams, with only 8 conference games, and uneven scheduling, Bama skews the Bayesian network that is perception in CFB.

UF once thought to be a very good team this year because they hung with Bama and have good recruits. This exemplifies why people get carried away and make statements like it is easily the best with no discussion.

I think it is easily the best in terms of prestige and perception. It has the best brand. But it generally is one team different than the Big 12. That team being Bama.
Georgia would like a word with you. Oh and LSU, Florida, Auburn too because all of those programs have played for and/or won national championships in the last 20 years. The Big 12 is still clinging to Vince Young in 2005 and that program is leaving.
 
I will also add to those who think the Big 12 and SEC are not so different that this thread and countless others since the OU and UT announcement was made they are leaving has been claiming both better enjoy the money because you can kiss winning titles goodbye and may even fall into a lot more mediocre to decent years. Hmmmm why is that claim being made if the SEC is not better than the Big 12? Because OU has owned this conference for years without little push back aside from a game here and there.
You seriously need this to be explained?

First, and primarily, because you're condensing the best of two conferences, without yet expanding the playoffs. Adding the top of any conference to another conference makes that new conference harder.

Second, the Nebraska effect. The Big 10 west, or the Big 10 in general most years, isn't harder than the Big 12. But Nebraska went from having a niche to being an outsider. OU, and to a lesser extent UT, had great fits in the Big 12. Now OU is an edge school. ND isn't joining a conference, not because the schedule would get harder, but because they would lose what makes them special.
 
I will also add to those who think the Big 12 and SEC are not so different that this thread and countless others since the OU and UT announcement was made they are leaving has been claiming both better enjoy the money because you can kiss winning titles goodbye and may even fall into a lot more mediocre to decent years. Hmmmm why is that claim being made if the SEC is not better than the Big 12? Because OU has owned this conference for years with little push back aside from a game here and there.
They're top heavy and have been. They have 2 top tier schools that get a huge amount of NFL bound talent. 3-5 that can get things together when the stars align. But they are not top to bottom world beaters.

Still easily the best conference because of the astronomical disparity of their top end teams.
 
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There is way too much parity for such superlatives.

It is not the best by far. It has 14 teams, with only 8 conference games, and uneven scheduling, Bama skews the Bayesian network that is perception in CFB.

UF once thought to be a very good team this year because they hung with Bama and have good recruits. This exemplifies why people get carried away and make statements like it is easily the best with no discussion.

I think it is easily the best in terms of prestige and perception. It has the best brand. But it generally is one team different than the Big 12. That team being Bama.

The SEC has won 11 of the last 15 national championships. The other 4 major conferences have won 4 and the Big 12 wasn’t one of them.

it isn’t just Bama…Auburn, LSU, and Florida have won titles and it looks like Georgia is next up this year. Top to bottom, the conference is 12-4 the last two years in bowl games. It is by far better than the rest of college football
 
Georgia would like a word with you. Oh and LSU, Florida, Auburn too because all of those programs have played for and/or won national championships in the last 20 years. The Big 12 is still clinging to Vince Young in 2005 and that program is leaving.
The Florida that just struggled with an FCS team? 6-6 LSU? Now who is the one relying on old, irrelevant data!!

That is a shallow measure of "best" that you are employing. Was the AAC the best when UConn won the NCAA tournament? Yes, the SEC has programs rise and fall more than others.

Glad you resorted to this though. We have to define best. Programs with inherent huge FB budgets and local recruiting capable of a good coach winning a NC? That is more saying the SEC has the best brand and prestige than saying it is easily the best on the field. Overall I'd put the BIG ahead of the SEC on the field this year, although the SEC has a better chance at winning the title.
 
The SEC has won 11 of the last 15 national championships. The other 4 major conferences have won 4 and the Big 12 wasn’t one of them.

it isn’t just Bama…Auburn, LSU, and Florida have won titles and it looks like Georgia is next up this year. Top to bottom, the conference is 12-4 the last two years in bowl games. It is by far better than the rest of college football
LMAO, you're not talking about the best. This is prestige. Yes, the SEC has the highest collection of brand name programs. But any given year that collection is not easily the best on the field.


The Big 12 went 5-0 in bowls last year fwiw. The BIG is the best on the field this year imo
 
LMAO, you're not talking about the best. This is prestige. Yes, the SEC has the highest collection of brand name programs. But any given year that collection is not easily the best on the field.


The Big 12 went 5-0 in bowls last year fwiw. The BIG is the best on the field this year imo

I guess we will have to disagree.
 
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The Big 12 went 5-0 in bowls last year fwiw. The BIG is the best on the field this year imo

Not sure about that. OSU and Alabama are both down this year but the SEC still has the #1 ranked team and is quite tough all across with the exception of a dysfunctional Florida team, mediocre Missouri and South Carolina teams along with perennial doormat Vanderbilt
 
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LMAO, you're not talking about the best. This is prestige. Yes, the SEC has the highest collection of brand name programs. But any given year that collection is not easily the best on the field.


The Big 12 went 5-0 in bowls last year fwiw. The BIG is the best on the field this year imo
Wait so the SEC is top-heavy and that’s it but the Big Ten isn’t? Aside from Ohio State I will wait on who these other elite programs are.

I know you always come off as thinking you know everything on this site so it’s OK to be wrong but maybe you are the one that needs to have it “explained” to you.
 
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