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I think I'd rather see my center be able to move a bunch of weight in a squat than I would benching. I do agree Jiri's weak benching is troublesome - but not something I'm overly concerned about.

I mean, Jiri wasn't exactly known for his work ethic around here.
 
Clones85' said:
I am not saying Jiri should be able to bench 300 lbs. But 185 more than twice? Yes. He played center in the big 12! He needed to be able to bang down low. And if you don't think strength is that important in basketball, go back and watch game tape of Maric from Nebraska.
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Maric used his size and his strength. When you are 270 lbs, I think size goes a long way. I don't doubt he was a strong guy. But he was the biggest guy in almost every game he played in college.

I don't want to get in some long debate about strength. I'm just saying that bench press isn't a good indicator of strength. Positioning on the court is often time about the legs and feet and using leverage. That is all the more I'm going to say.
 
If we have players gaining 20 lbs. or more since the season ended, then 15 of that is fat, plain and simple. Gaining muscle weight is hard to do, and takes intense work. Certainly, college athletes gain "good" weight simply by their bodies growing and maturing, but gaining even 10 pounds of muscle weight in a calendar year is a very ambitious goal of a basketball player. They are running and burning off so many calories.
If Craig Brackins is really at 235 (which I doubt, to be honest) - he's out of shape.
 
Tornado man said:
If we have players gaining 20 lbs. or more since the season ended, then 15 of that is fat, plain and simple. Gaining muscle weight is hard to do, and takes intense work. Certainly, college athletes gain "good" weight simply by their bodies growing and maturing, but gaining even 10 pounds of muscle weight in a calendar year is a very ambitious goal of a basketball player. They are running and burning off so many calories.
If Craig Brackins is really at 235 (which I doubt, to be honest) - he's out of shape.
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I gained 10 pounds in 10 weeks from January-March and I maintained my Bodyfat %. It was almost exactly the same.
 
Bench press strength is most useful if a guy is flat on his back and needs to push a player up and off of him. If a basketball player finds himself in that position, he's got bigger problems than his bench press number.
 
Tornado man said:
If we have players gaining 20 lbs. or more since the season ended, then 15 of that is fat, plain and simple. Gaining muscle weight is hard to do, and takes intense work. Certainly, college athletes gain "good" weight simply by their bodies growing and maturing, but gaining even 10 pounds of muscle weight in a calendar year is a very ambitious goal of a basketball player. They are running and burning off so many calories.
If Craig Brackins is really at 235 (which I doubt, to be honest) - he's out of shape.
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Blythe gained 10 pounds from January to June of last year and decreased his body fat.
 
If they were previously lifting it is pretty easy to gain that kind of weight. In a year and a half in college I went from never lifting (155 lbs) to lifting at least 4 days a week and went up to 195 lbs while halving my body fat. Hard work and a proper diet will get them there. Wish I could go back down to 195 now, but don't have the desire to work that hard.
 
Once again I don't expect our guys to be able to bench a ton. But D1 athletes that are as big as Jiri should have no problem with 185 lbs. Even if he never benches but lifts other weights hard, I would have expected him to do that more than twice
 
baller1 said:
Their is a kid from Johnston who goes to school with Nick Smith. His name is Mitch Fondell and he is pretty good and you might want to keep your eye on him. He had an injury last year which prevented him from playing varsity. He has a nice stroke and can drive and dish. He is about 6' foot right now with still room to grow and get stronger.
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How old is he? If he's anything but a freshman I'm not real excited about a kid that didn't play varsity ball (no matter what the reason). No offense intended.
 
Bader said:
Yea, we should totally play fluff non-conference games so that when we start what is generally one of the hardest conference seasons in college basketball, we can get smacked around and win maybe four more games because we've been playing awful teams all season :skeptical:
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I didn't really mean go totally cream puff, but I think playing
Iowa, Drake, UNI, Plus 2 teams out of BCS leagues is about right.

That would give us 3 in-State heated games.
2 bigger stage games
Plus if we get into a tournament that would give us more big games.
I think at this point 6 of our non-conference games should be gimmies. I think they should be getting big time games lined up for 2010,11,12 though.
 
Have Brackins been gaining good weght our was it all fat? I dont know but hey are college athletes. I think they will get back into shape by the season.
 
Tornado man said:
If we have players gaining 20 lbs. or more since the season ended, then 15 of that is fat, plain and simple. Gaining muscle weight is hard to do, and takes intense work. Certainly, college athletes gain "good" weight simply by their bodies growing and maturing, but gaining even 10 pounds of muscle weight in a calendar year is a very ambitious goal of a basketball player. They are running and burning off so many calories.
If Craig Brackins is really at 235 (which I doubt, to be honest) - he's out of shape.
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He appeared to be in pretty solid shape this afternoon when I saw him. Whether he is a legit 235 lbs, I do not know (I did not grow up with a carnival family and thus never learned how to guess someone's weight within 5 lbs.)
 
I don't think that Craig Brackins would ever let himself get out of shape - that's why I doubt that he is 235.
It's just that these figures thrown around about gaining 30 lbs. in the off-season are ridiculous. We all heard about how many pounds Alex Thompson had gained prior to last season. Did he really look that much different?
Even five lbs. of muscle weight is very, very noticeable on someone.
 
I think 185 lbs is easy for most people to lift not even in training who have some muscle....maybe long arms is a detriment
 
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