I don't know the real stats, but I would say that 90%+ of PFs are in retaliation. That is why my coaches always said "Take care of it on the NEXT play, they always catch the guy who swings last."
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I don't know the real stats, but I would say that 90%+ of PFs are in retaliation. That is why my coaches always said "Take care of it on the NEXT play, they always catch the guy who swings last."
Then perhaps you noticed that almost all of the other ISU fans besides you were embarrassed. I hadn't had a single drink all day, so I'm saying with 100% clarity that VERY few people found this play acceptable.
I too love it when one of our best players does something completely stupid and gets himself ejected from the game. Not only costing us immediate yardage - but giving up more potential yardage as a starter is no longer in the lineup (for the remainder of that game and at least one more).
I mean...why have I not thought of this as a good thing yet? Must not be intelligent enough to consider not having a great athlete on the field is a good thing.
Less brains...more rage!
/sarcasm
I showed the video to a co-worker of mine (ohio state fan) and his response: man, I wish our players could hit like that.
Take the hit out of context, and it's a great hit. I agree that it's unacceptable, and he lost his cool, but it was a good hit.
Take the hit out of context, and it's a great hit. I agree that it's unacceptable, and he lost his cool, but it was a good hit.
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Completely unacceptable, we are trying to build a respectable team and that does not help the fact. It made us and the Big 12 look bad. But towards the end of the game it was UNLV who was making personal fouls at the end. Overall though I thought we played a great game (Well at least the second half) against a team that beat Arizona State.
Indeed the endzone is only ten yards deep but because the qb ran into the end zone at a slight angle I was measuring the hypotenuse of the triangle:yes:
My point being, I don't think you can chastize a guy for saying he loved the hit. He didn't say he loved that our guy hurt the team, hurt the rep of the school, and hurt himself.
I guess I don't really understand this logic. Was it a stupid play? Yes. But to say that it undermines everything Chizik is building here, and makes the entire team, let alone the entire conference, look bad is quite the exaggeration. I mean, we're talking about a game that was barely televised between two teams that have no real following outside of their own fanbases...it's not like the hit was plastered all over Sportscenter or something.
To me it looks like a bad hit and definitely something that you would be embarrassed about IF for certain he knew where he was on the field and purposely took the extra little shot. I won't defend it, but could possibly accept the argument that he may not have known where he was in the field of play.
A good hit on a guy that just scored and obviously let his guard down? If the QB was still in the field of play and been aware of the surroundings, that hit probably doesn't have the same bone-crushing look to it. I have a much easier time pushing a guy down the stairs if he isn't ready for it too vs him being prepared for that possibility.
What else was there to the hit? A hit after the play is a hit after the play - period. So what that he hit the guy like a rocket. It was very late and illegal.
Taking out of context and just calling it a hit is lunacy.
I was hoping someone else noticed this. LJ hit was late but right before half time they showed a clip of the hit on the big screen at the game. LJ got a good push in the back to help increase his momentum going into the QB. The hit was late but the push by the WR is what made the hit more flagrant.
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Illuminating perspective, I thank you for it. Saturday night was business as usual, then (don't condone it, but at least some of us here now understand that such behavior is the norm and not ISU-specific).
DefendtheStreak, were you at the game? I was not, and like many others here, I'm deeply troubled about Leonard Johnson's late hit in the end zone on your QB. That's NOT Cyclone-style football.
Streak, looking at the YouTube video of LJ's late hit, I wonder if he might not have been aware that he was in the end zone but rather thought he was on the field of play and was knocking your QB out of bounds fairly.
Watching the video, he's running directly to the sidelines, and his head is turned up field toward the QB. I wonder if the kid did not lose sight of how deep he was on the field.
Do you have an opinion about this? What did you read and hear post-game about it?
Thanks much. And, from myself to you, an ISU fan to a UNLV fan, I apologize to you that one of mine did that to one of yours.
(Craziest fan behavior I've witnessed: Colorado State-Wyoming football games. I lived in Ft. Collins during one season, and loved the brand of football out there. Wide open. The Rams were 9-2 that year. A couple of years later, there was a bench-clearing brawl between the two teams . . . before the opening kickoff. And that's only one example of many illustrating the animosity existing between these two teams and their fans. Something else. . . .)
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Ding ding ding! He was getting manhandled by that receiver. I am hoping he just wasn't aware of his position on the field.
One of our most beloved players (according to most) is probably one of the worst at this in the NFL. Ellis Hobbs goes Gramatica every time he makes a play, and he's idolized as one of the best, if not, the best cornerback in ISU history. It's not necessarily a bad thing to celebrate a good play. Some guys feed off of it. It's quite another when it's done to taunt a player, or when the play results in the injury of another...
