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iastatefan1 said:
Agree with that, just had him significantly more likely than 125. 174 would be more like dark horse than decent chance. He was getting taken apart by picklo before that pin. He is wild to watch.
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Which is based on your dislike of KT, which I understand, but not results.

The narrative is quite funny.
1. KT stunk verse Drake (basically losing by a TD). Drake could be a National Champ.
2. No trust in KT and gets beat by Spratley 4-2 (but was the aggressor). Spratley AA candidate.
3. Majors Barnett and everyone is happy until his next loss. Last a saw Barnett is top 5 ranked.
4. Beats OU and WVU the last 2 weeks and both beat Anderson but Anderson and KT are a toss up.
5. Best one. He has wrestled for 4 years. Actually in his 3rd year and has never had a RS year. His true freshman year he had like 10 matches.

I’m not pointing at you but the board’s dislike for KT because he loses a few matches that he shouldn’t. Definitely has a betrer chance to AA than MJ at this point in there careers.
 
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cywr89 said:
Which is based on your dislike of KT, which I understand, but not results.

The narrative is quite funny.
1. KT stunk verse Drake (basically losing by a TD). Drake could be a National Champ.
2. No trust in KT and gets beat by Spratley 4-2 (but was the aggressor). Spratley AA candidate.
3. Majors Barnett and everyone is happy until his next loss. Last a saw Barnett is top 5 ranked.
4. Beats OU and WVU the last 2 weeks and both beat Anderson but Anderson and KT are a toss up.
5. Best one. He has wrestled for 4 years. Actually in his 3rd year and has never had a RS year. His true freshman year he had like 10 matches.

I’m not pointing at you but the board’s dislike for KT because he loses a few matches that he shouldn’t. Definitely has a betrer chance to AA than MJ at this point in there careers.
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The difference is that KT is proven. He’s proven in his inability to win multiple tough matches in succession. We know he can’t do it.

MJ is more of an unknown at this point and has a funky style that can catch people. I don’t think either of them have much of a chance to AA. KT at 0.01% and MJ at 1%.
 
cywr89 said:
Which is based on your dislike of KT, which I understand, but not results.

The narrative is quite funny.
1. KT stunk verse Drake (basically losing by a TD). Drake could be a National Champ.
2. No trust in KT and gets beat by Spratley 4-2 (but was the aggressor). Spratley AA candidate.
3. Majors Barnett and everyone is happy until his next loss. Last a saw Barnett is top 5 ranked.
4. Beats OU and WVU the last 2 weeks and both beat Anderson but Anderson and KT are a toss up.
5. Best one. He has wrestled for 4 years. Actually in his 3rd year and has never had a RS year. His true freshman year he had like 10 matches.

I’m not pointing at you but the board’s dislike for KT because he loses a few matches that he shouldn’t. Definitely has a betrer chance to AA than MJ at this point in there careers.
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Can multiple things be true?

I think he is a toss up with Anderson and also think he has the ability to be an AA.

He can beat AA’s (Barnett) and lose to unranked guys (Cal Bakersfield) at any given moment.
 
He actually wrestled really well against Spratley who I’ve come to think pretty highly of right now at that weight. He was aggressive he just couldn’t finish his shots. Personally I’ve always believe in Kysen still and think he could AA if he can finish the shots he gets in on. He has the talent he just has to get on a roll in the right direction
 
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cywr89 said:
Which is based on your dislike of KT, which I understand, but not results.

The narrative is quite funny.
1. KT stunk verse Drake (basically losing by a TD). Drake could be a National Champ.
2. No trust in KT and gets beat by Spratley 4-2 (but was the aggressor). Spratley AA candidate.
3. Majors Barnett and everyone is happy until his next loss. Last a saw Barnett is top 5 ranked.
4. Beats OU and WVU the last 2 weeks and both beat Anderson but Anderson and KT are a toss up.
5. Best one. He has wrestled for 4 years. Actually in his 3rd year and has never had a RS year. His true freshman year he had like 10 matches.

I’m not pointing at you but the board’s dislike for KT because he loses a few matches that he shouldn’t. Definitely has a betrer chance to AA than MJ at this point in there careers.
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Definitely don't dislike anyone on ISUs team or many d1 wrestlers in general as they are elite and have all put in years of blood sweat tears and commitment which I respect the hell out of. I do have some opinions so here goes:
I like Kysens style more than MJs and have been a fan of how he wrestles on his feet for awhile. He had enough track record now that he doesn't finish well. I don't know why and I thought it would improve as he got older but it hasn't. Definitely frustrating. MJ imo relies on funk too much and needs better head hands on his feet rather than relying on giving up the legs and scrambling out of it. That never seems to work at the top, top level of the sport. That said MJ is just dangerous. He could keep up this roll and AA very low odds. Hope Kysen and MJ both prove me wrong and continue to improve.
 
iastatefan1 said:
Definitely don't dislike anyone on ISUs team or many d1 wrestlers in general as they are elite and have all put in years of blood sweat tears and commitment which I respect the hell out of. I do have some opinions so here goes:
I like Kysens style more than MJs and have been a fan of how he wrestles on his feet for awhile. He had enough track record now that he doesn't finish well. I don't know why and I thought it would improve as he got older but it hasn't. Definitely frustrating. MJ imo relies on funk too much and needs better head hands on his feet rather than relying on giving up the legs and scrambling out of it. That never seems to work at the top, top level of the sport. That said MJ is just dangerous. He could keep up this roll and AA very low odds. Hope Kysen and MJ both prove me wrong and continue to improve.
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MJ has to go back to the basics and stay in position when he wrestles St John in practice. It helps to have that guys taking MJ to school and keeping him honest in practice.
 
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The idea that after three years of the same kind of results from KT are magically going to change the last month of the season is a pipe dream. In the words of Dennis Green, "he is who we thought he was"

I hope I have to eat crow on March 24th and he finds the podium in Kansas City. But I'm not pulling out the fork,knife and ketchup just yet.
 
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4theheckofit said:
The idea that after three years of the same kind of results from KT are magically going to change the last month of the season is a pipe dream. In the words of Dennis Green, "he is who we thought he was"

I hope I have to eat crow on March 24th and he finds the podium in Kansas City. But I'm not pulling out the fork,knife and ketchup just yet.
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If Kysen makes the podium I'll donate $125 times the podium step up. So 8th 125, 7th 125 x 2, 6th 125 x3, etc
 
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crablegs said:
The difference is that KT is proven. He’s proven in his inability to win multiple tough matches in succession. We know he can’t do it.

MJ is more of an unknown at this point and has a funky style that can catch people. I don’t think either of them have much of a chance to AA. KT at 0.01% and MJ at 1%.
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I still have hope for KT. He is a really good wrestler. Everyone progresses at their own pace. Seems like consistency is easier to develop than talent itself.
 
Cycsk said:
I still have hope for KT. He is a really good wrestler. Everyone progresses at their own pace. Seems like consistency is easier to develop than talent itself.
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The talent is definitely there. We've seen multiple times.
 
4theheckofit said:
The idea that after three years of the same kind of results from KT are magically going to change the last month of the season is a pipe dream. In the words of Dennis Green, "he is who we thought he was"

I hope I have to eat crow on March 24th and he finds the podium in Kansas City. But I'm not pulling out the fork,knife and ketchup just yet.
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I agree he’s wildly inconsistent but he’s actually extremely close to being “there”. More consistent on bottom and finishing his shots and he’s a top 5 or 6 guy.
 
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crablegs said:
The difference is that KT is proven. He’s proven in his inability to win multiple tough matches in succession. We know he can’t do it.

MJ is more of an unknown at this point and has a funky style that can catch people. I don’t think either of them have much of a chance to AA. KT at 0.01% and MJ at 1%.
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You'd give 10,000 to 1 odds of KT making AA? Where do I place that bet!
 
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