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[Fitzy]

Don't buy Clark being Mafia 2 at all. Mafia had the power to swap votes (demonstrated on Day 2) so there was no reason for Mafia to put Discy up by a single vote at the end of the day.

The Clark theory was bad to begin with and throwing out that he could have been Mafia Role 2 is even worse logic for this game moving forward.

Vote Fitzy.

The mafia can't choose who they want to swap votes during the day. It has to be during the prior night phase, unless it works differently behind the scenes from how I mayored the same power last game. So, how are you so sure that the votes were influenced against discy that day?

Throwing out that he could have been mafia role 2 has literally no effect on the game at all moving forward, so I'm not sure why that is being used against me.

 

[Fitzy]

The mafia can't choose who they want to swap votes during the day. It has to be during the prior night phase, unless it works differently behind the scenes from how I mayored the same power last game. So, how are you so sure that the votes were influenced against discy that day?

Throwing out that he could have been mafia role 2 has literally no effect on the game at all moving forward, so I'm not sure why that is being used against me.

You know what... This is starting to make a whole lot more sense. Guess who came up with the theory on Discy on the day that he's alluding to the mafia having switched votes against discy:

8- Discy – North (10:52 AM), SCNCY (11:34 AM), Clonies (11:37 AM), Fitzy (11:40 AM), JM4CY (11:50 AM rescinded 1:13 PM), KCClone (11:58 AM), CTown (7:54 PM), Cyme (8:35 PM), Clark 8:56 PM)

Boy, that's convenient!

Vote North

 

[CycloneNorth]

You know what... This is starting to make a whole lot more sense. Guess who came up with the theory on Discy on the day that he's alluding to the mafia having switched votes against discy:

8- Discy – North (10:52 AM), SCNCY (11:34 AM), Clonies (11:37 AM), Fitzy (11:40 AM), JM4CY (11:50 AM rescinded 1:13 PM), KCClone (11:58 AM), CTown (7:54 PM), Cyme (8:35 PM), Clark 8:56 PM)

Boy, that's convenient!

Vote North

I have no doubt there were mafia votes on Discy, but I know mine wasn't. I feel good with at least one (if not two) of Clonies, Fitzy, and KC being mafia.

 

[Fitzy]

I have no doubt there were mafia votes on Discy, but I know mine wasn't. I feel good with at least one (if not two) of Clonies, Fitzy, and KC being mafia.

Why do you seem so sure the mafia used their vote switch against discy?

 

[CycloneNorth]

Why do you seem so sure the mafia used their vote switch against discy?

I'm not sure, but I don't buy you trying to explain Clark away by him being Mafia Number 2. I could say the same thing about Discy to try to make my voting record look better. No way mafia throws a last vote out on Day 2.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

It was only a matter of time before that gif showed up.

 

[Fitzy]

I'm not sure, but I don't buy you trying to explain Clark away by him being Mafia Number 2. I could say the same thing about Discy to try to make my voting record look better. No way mafia throws a last vote out on Day 2.

As already laid out in the thread, there are only five mafia total this game, and Ctown had the role that he cannot be killed by a hit. Meaning the only way he could get killed was via lynch. If I was in the mafia, protecting Ctown from a lynch would be top priority for that reason.

"No way mafia throws a last vote out on day 2" is not true at all for these reasons. I'm not saying Clark definitely was Mafia Role 2, but it's certainly worth keeping in mind.

 

[Fitzy]

As already laid out in the thread, there are only five mafia total this game, and Ctown had the role that he cannot be killed by a hit. Meaning the only way he could get killed was via lynch. If I was in the mafia, protecting Ctown from a lynch would be top priority for that reason.

"No way mafia throws a last vote out on day 2" is not true at all for these reasons. I'm not saying Clark definitely was Mafia Role 2, but it's certainly worth keeping in mind.

I should add... Ctown could only die via lynch or instakill (the latter being how he died).

 

[moores2]

The mafia can't choose who they want to swap votes during the day. It has to be during the prior night phase, unless it works differently behind the scenes from how I mayored the same power last game. So, how are you so sure that the votes were influenced against discy that day?

Throwing out that he could have been mafia role 2 has literally no effect on the game at all moving forward, so I'm not sure why that is being used against me.

Mafia can choose their vote swap during the day. Role blocking the night prior would stop this for the next day etc.

 

[Fitzy]

Mafia can choose their vote swap during the day. Role blocking the night prior would stop this for the next day etc.

Got it. Well that changes things. Could they theoretically wait until 9:04 to submit their swap? Or is there a cutoff?

 

[moores2]

Got it. Well that changes things. Could they theoretically wait until 9:04 to submit their swap? Or is there a cutoff?

9:05 cutoff.

 

[Fitzy]

So how'd you know mafia could make the swap during the day @CycloneNorth?

 

[bsaltyman]

I might as well reveal my role at this point. I’m the dead guy whose vote doesn’t count. Last Friday I hinted at being special but didn’t want to say which because I was hoping the mafia would hit me instead of Azhuth. It’s a moot point now that I’m the only special inno left and I’m basically powerless.

 

[GBlade]

Okay, so backtracking a little here. There are 3 blockable roles (moors correct me). Fitz was silenced Night 3 going into Day 4 before Luther got hit. That means Night 2 going to into Day 3 Luther would have had to block the rolebocker or influencer. I don't see how CTown gets out of the Day 3 vote without the influencer, so that means the influencer or silencer would have been blocked. Night 1 going into Day 2, we know Farnsworth was silenced. That means the influencer would have been blocked Day 2. Would the mafia know it was blocked?

 

[bsaltyman]

Right now we have 9 players left with 3 or hopefully 2 mafia left. The mafia can’t mess with the vote count anymore, and since everyone knows my vote doesn’t count there should be no more surprises like what happened to JM.

Right now I’m tending to believe Fitzy is inno because all of the points he’s brought up I’ve agreed with. I’m thinking either KC or North could be mafia. Not that it matters, but I’ll vote North.

 

[GBlade]

I might as well reveal my role at this point. I’m the dead guy whose vote doesn’t count. Last Friday I hinted at being special but didn’t want to say which because I was hoping the mafia would hit me instead of Azhuth. It’s a moot point now that I’m the only special inno left and I’m basically powerless.

Which basically means there are 8 people left with 2 or 3 mafia. They may have investigated Azhuth early.

 

[GBlade]

I’m thinking either KC or North could be mafia. Not that it matters, but I’ll vote North.

Rescind KC vote North

 

[JM4CY]

Right now we have 9 players left with 3 or hopefully 2 mafia left. The mafia can’t mess with the vote count anymore, and since everyone knows my vote doesn’t count there should be no more surprises like what happened to JM.

Right now I’m tending to believe Fitzy is inno because all of the points he’s brought up I’ve agreed with. I’m thinking either KC or North could be mafia. Not that it matters, but I’ll vote North.

 

[moores2]

3- North – Fitzy (9:55 AM), bsalty (11:25 AM), GBlade (11:42 AM)
2- Fitzy – KC (9:13 AM), North (9:35 AM)
0- KC – Gblade (9:42 AM rescinded 11:42 AM)

 

[bsaltyman]

Don’t be mad at me I never voted for you