Tyrese Hunter PG '21 - Committed!
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Evaluation goes beyond players we've had commit to us. Several guards have went on to have solid careers at other universities. Post players have been a bit of a struggle.
I do same dumb things from time to time, but curious as to what you think was dumb about this post @LLCoolJansma I sincerely do hope he's learned from those 3 poorly scouted recruits that devastated our program depth over the past few seasons.
The assertion that because solidly rated players with good offers like Terrence Lewis, Zion Griffin, and Jakolby Long didn't work out we should stop targeting highly rated players is nonsensical. You've made it worse for yourself by repeating it a thousand times.
Tyrese Hunter will likely end up a top 5 recruit in program history.
One guy a class won't hurt you, the early departures hurt more than those guys leaving.
The '19 class was rough after a bad year but Jackson is a keeper and we reloaded/upgraded after.
For ****'s sake. Every coach makes mistakes and Prohm is no exception. And Long was recruited in that time period where Prohm had little to no time to to recruit due to the timing of him being hired.
There was no problem with their talent evaluation. It was the work they didn’t put into it.
This is an acceptable response. Not acceptable to have athletes who don't want to put the work in on full ride scholly though. Hence the reason they are gone. Long on his, what, 3rd school now?
"unmitigated disasters" "that devastated our program depth". That might be a catastrophic hyperbolization with unrelenting consequences obviating every reason to retain CSP.Cyinthenorth said:
This thread was bumped to point out the large jump Hunter just had (#56) not to immeditly throw water on it by being critical of Prohm's recruiting. Recruiting isn't a 100% translation from ranking in HS to production in College. Side note #56 ranking is far more correlated to success at the HM level at ISU (THT, Wigginton, Matt Thomas, Niang). Long, Zion, and Lewis were 125ish and isn't a great comparision regardless.
UNC, UK, KU and many other blue bloods have highly ranked recruits that end up a Mid Major's in a year or 2. Simply stating Zion, Lewis and Long are misses and not giving credit for THT, Haliburton, and Wigginton as hits is unfair and bias and thus I don't feel relevent. Sorry for the dumb emoji but I was put off by the comment.
Great to see Hunter get the bump it sounded like he rightfully deserved. As you well know some on here aren't worth your breath because they are always going to find a way to circle back to the negative regardless of how good the future looks.
I know Sallis is the "home run" for all the posters that like to compare rankings but honestly a #8 recruit has one and done expectations. I'd really like to see DeVries commit. An elite shooter that would be around a few years seem like a perfect fit with the talent we'll have already in the mix.
even with that, long was prohm trying to fill the roster at the last second.... I guess if you want to really throw shade at him recruiting Zion, then we should look at the fact that Self recruited Zion too. So maybe he deserves some shade for his recruiting misses too.
Long was Prohm's second class I believe, the first year was Simeon Carter and Brady Ernst filling late spots.
Getting Bolton and Jackson is ok. I do think if guys like Griffin and Lewis would have developed, that class wouldn't get as much negative attention. LW, THT and Lard leaving also changed the landscape of the program. Essentially, when the '19 class was signed, there really weren't a ton of minutes available. Tyrese going down, Nixon being underwhelming, 3 early departures and 2 busts put a ton of minutes out there and put way more pressure on the young guys to not only play but to be contributors. In hindsight, Grill is the only signing I'd question, not because wasn't good enough, its just at that time, Prohm knew about the departures, a transfer would have been a better fit, that's easy to say after the fact though. He was just always going to be a bit of a project. I think you can go back to ZG/TL/minutes available again to see why Prohm didn't or wasn't able to go the transfer route.
In the end, it wasn't great but certainly wasn't the disaster it gets made out to be on here.Plus, it got us guys like Harris and Hinson for 2 years. I'd take those proven players over hoping guys like Leech or Grill come along every time. So I feel like the staff should get some flack for that class, they whiffed somewhere but a lot of things happened that they couldn't control. Thankfully, they bounced back and totally nailed both the fall and spring for the '20 class. The programs future is brighter today than it was a year ago.
I’m gonnna be honest with you.
If Steve Prohm brought in five top 10 HS kids and we won the Big XII regular season, post season and NCAA national championship titles, somehow I think that I could manage to contain my disappointment that they were off to the NBA after a single year.
Somehow.
Prohm's transfer recruiting deserves far more criticism than his high school recruiting. I still think Jakolby Long could've come good if he hadn't messed with his shot before showing up to campus.