I'm guessing they get a 5 type player. I think they'll be ok at the 3/4.
Tre King next year?
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I'm guessing they get a 5 type player. I think they'll be ok at the 3/4.
I think we'll play one of the 4s some at the 3 (probably at the 5 as well). But Watson, Fish and Hamilton really don't move the needle compared to the rest of the roster.
I think you will like Fish. Hamilton and Watson will be fine as long as they keep developing. Could go three guard lineup. Williams, Lipsey, Grill, Biliew, King?
I hope so, I just don't see Watson as a great fit next year at the three with roster makeup. (Think we could use a sniper at SF) So then we'd be counting on two freshmen to fill the need.
I actually go back and forth on this because having 3 SF out of the rotation will lead to guys that can really help us in the future not sticking around versus if we find the right center it would be a shame to not have the one piece that could put us over the top.
Have loved what Watson has given the team this year when called upon. But like you, I feel his offensive game needs a TON of work if he's gonna continue to see any sort of regular rotation minutes. Air balling wide open 3's has not been a good look
Exactly, I do believe Watson can be a solid contributor in the future. He bring aggressive rebounding to a team that in the future will have Momcilovic and Indrusaitis raining in the threes.
Watson has long arms and seems to do well at getting into passing lanes and overall causing some havoc on defense. Plus, he is good at getting rebounds. Unless his offensive game improves a lot next year, I see his role as coming in for a couple of minutes each half to keep the other guys fresh. To much of a liability to leave out there for extended minutes. I know TJ preaches defense and getting stops, and that is high priority, but we still needs points to win. I know the offensive talent is coming, we need it so bad.
Tre King will be back.
The one I am not convinced will return is Hassan Ward. I have zero inside info. Just my take on the situation - body language, playing time (close to zero) etc. he has one year remaining and he may want a bigger role than seems likely at ISU.
I like him. He is not B12 ready right now. Cannot finish. I think he will be pretty good by his junior year. He is not a guard, more traditional small forward. The minutes available get pretty tight with Milan and Omaha coming in - they are going to play a lot - imo.
Sidebar - we need a shooting guard desperately for next year.
I would like to have Ward back. A full offseason with this staff could turn him into a consistent Big 12 post player imo. They need to have him back and sign one more 5 for next year, I think.
Ward would be a sit one play one transfer. Anything is possible, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if he stayed and was much better after getting the summer work in.
Agree, but today Holmes missed a lot of shots at the basket. Look at the shot chart (on ESPN), amazing amount of paint misses for ISU yesterday.
We were horrid from 3, but we also shot something like 14-35 from 2- ouch.
Also, I thought Lipsey and Gabe got into the paint a lot and didn't look to score first. Sure they might have gotten shot blocked, or KSU might have fouled them. Instead they got ball stripped or threw ball out and we missed the 3.
It's a guards game, but really good offensive teams have post guys they go to on the block. It's a big help for jump shooting guards if opponents defense collapses on the post.
As a side, ESPN+ has a short bio on Ralph Sampson. Amazing to see how skilled he was for a 7'4" kid. Conversely, watched Duke last night and their stud post Lively has no offensive skills other than the dunk. It is a different game.
Next year we have Omaha, Milan, Tamin, and Tre four of our likely five starters. Tre will be a big piece of the squad in 23-24.
We are fine at the 3/4. We have Biliew, Momcilovic, and King to fill those spots.
Don't forget Robert Jones
He made big strides between last year and this. I hope he can have similar growth next year.
I know he’s a freshman but I’d like to see Lipsey’s volume increase. Teams are giving him the midrange shot and I’d rather see him take an open 15 footer than so many off balance 3s by Gabe and Grill and deep 3s by Holmes. Tamin stroked a foul line jumper late at WVU in a pressure situation. Often times he ends up with the ball late in the shot clock and he always looks for someone else. I think Tamin looking for his shot more will get his teammates open more.
Grill will start if he’s back and I’d bet one of those 4 you mentioned (probably Tre) comes off the bench and Bob is starting to start the season.