TPH Academy opening school in Norwalk in June

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Okay.

I’m not particularly happy with how the voucher program has been implemented but schools like this are the silver lining IMO. I’d love to see a fine arts school and an engineering school pop up too.
Ankeny's 3rd high school is supposed to be an "innovative secondary hub" of sorts that students from both high schools can attend in block increments and still play sports for their resident building. It's about 5-8 years from opening
 
Maybe some states aren't so stupid that they actually understand the super-power of private schools is deciding who goes to their school. The fact that there are people in our state that are so stupid that they think you could swap Dowling and Hoover's student bodies, and that Dowling would still magically be a high performing school is a pretty damning statement about our education system on its own.

I'm sure there are some terrific teachers and administrators at private schools. But the idea that those schools' performance is some magical thing they are responsible for is about the dumbest thing in education.
Agree. I think the biggest factor in determining how well someone does in school or how good of an education they get, is their parents. Funding doesn't change that. If you have a kid whos parents are involved with their education, push them in school, help them read, learn math, ect.. at home, they could be in a one room school house with a dirt floor and a single slate chalk board, and they will get a good education if they have a decent teacher. It all starts in the home. If the parents don't give a ****, the kid wont either. Parents need to be active participants in their kid's education, at least to some degree.
 
The rankings of HSs has always been on the public end. It’s no secret that private schools attract the kids from wealthier families generally. Those students generally have a strong support system and are involved in more extra curricular activities. Those conditions generally foster stronger performing students.

So as Iowa shrinks so do the enrollments at public schools but privates have held numbers better for the most part it seems. This creates a more students not from the backgrounds that I described being in the public schools. It is kind of a spiral type thing.

If people want to attack me as some private school zealot, my oldest two graduated from public and my youngest is in public schools.
It's not just privates, in places that have both poor and wealthy schools like in the DM metro, open enrollment has done the same thing. Even things like having parental support to go through the process or drive their kid to school out of the district has concentrated kids at publics with more resources. There's some of this in rural areas. People I grew up with in NW IA take their kids 25 plus miles to a bigger public school because there just aren't the programs available at the small school in the district. I think the latter is a different problem with different ways to address it, but ultimately students are getting concentrated in schools based mostly on economics and home situation, which completely drive student performance. Then the funding concentrates with them, and we've got a snowball effect.

So it's a problem, but as a parent I'm glad those options exist. I have not used them, but if I felt like it was best I would. I don't begrudge any parent for putting their kids in a private school or open enrolling.
 
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Agree. I think the biggest factor in determining how well someone does in school or how good of an education they get, is their parents. Funding doesn't change that. If you have a kid whos parents are involved with their education, push them in school, help them read, learn math, ect.. at home, they could be in a one room school house with a dirt floor and a single slate chalk board, and they will get a good education if they have a decent teacher. It all starts in the home. If the parents don't give a ****, the kid wont either. Parents need to be active participants in their kid's education, at least to some degree.

What are we even paying these teachers for when it’s the parents doing all of the work?
 
Agree. I think the biggest factor in determining how well someone does in school or how good of an education they get, is their parents. Funding doesn't change that. If you have a kid whos parents are involved with their education, push them in school, help them read, learn math, ect.. at home, they could be in a one room school house with a dirt floor and a single slate chalk board, and they will get a good education if they have a decent teacher. It all starts in the home. If the parents don't give a ****, the kid wont either. Parents need to be active participants in their kid's education, at least to some degree.
Even if this is true how does it follow that public funds should go to a private hockey school or really any private school. Spend the per pupil funding lost from kids moving to private schools on roads or bridges or drinkable water.
 
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Iowa schools in the 80’s, 90’s, early 00’s = well funded and top 10 in the country.

Iowa schools in the late 00’s, 10’s, 20’s = not well funded and falling down towards the 30’s in rankings.

Thats just a coincidence I’m sure, it’s happening to every state right?
Chicago public schools spend $29,000 per student. Double Iowa? Someone can confirm/dispute this.

The Chicago Teachers Union President publicly announced last year she is sending her son to a private school for "educational and soccer purposes."

I took my kids out of the private system as they had an average AP program. I sent them to an inferior public system, in total, but had an excellent AP program. Also, the diversity was better at the public school.

It is a complicated topic and money spent isn't the only issue.

The public school dilemma is everywhere, not just Iowa, and that is why we are in a "revolution," imo.
 
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Agree. I think the biggest factor in determining how well someone does in school or how good of an education they get, is their parents. Funding doesn't change that. If you have a kid whos parents are involved with their education, push them in school, help them read, learn math, ect.. at home, they could be in a one room school house with a dirt floor and a single slate chalk board, and they will get a good education if they have a decent teacher. It all starts in the home. If the parents don't give a ****, the kid wont either. Parents need to be active participants in their kid's education, at least to some degree.
Absolutely. The problem is the students leaving means the money follows them to the school, and the schools with the students with the biggest struggles lose the most money.

The problem is the policies are set up as a way to reward schools that already have the best students with the best home lives and economic situations, allow them to attract the good students from the worse schools and keep getting more money.

Oh, and what's really great is a public school can say, sorry we're full, we can't take any more open enrollment, but we can consider them on a case by case basis. So you have public schools in high cost of living areas that are generally well off acting like something between a private and a typical public.
 
Even if this is true how does it follow that public funds should go to a private hockey school or really any private school. Spend the per pupil funding lost from kids moving to private schools on roads or bridges or drinkable water.
Public funds should follow the student they are meant for. Why should public funds go to a school the student isn't attending? Say Johnston schools lose 25% of their student body to private schools over a 10 year period. They should still have the same funding?
 
Public funds should follow the student they are meant for. Why should public funds go to a school the student isn't attending? Say Johnston schools lose 25% of their student body to private schools over a 10 year period. They should still have the same funding?
Reread what I said.
 
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Public funds should follow the student they are meant for. Why should public funds go to a school the student isn't attending? Say Johnston schools lose 25% of their student body to private schools over a 10 year period. They should still have the same funding?

Why should my tax dollars go to a school that can reject teaching my son who has special needs?
 
Absolutely. The problem is the students leaving means the money follows them to the school, and the schools with the students with the biggest struggles lose the most money.

The problem is the policies are set up as a way to reward schools that already have the best students with the best home lives and economic situations, allow them to attract the good students from the worse schools and keep getting more money.

Oh, and what's really great is a public school can say, sorry we're full, we can't take any more open enrollment, but we can consider them on a case by case basis. So you have public schools in high cost of living areas that are generally well off acting like something between a private and a typical public.
The local school just spent 3/4MM on a track renovation for 2 meets a year. They really went all out. The reasoning was they had too many funds in a certain account. I asked why not use those funds for solar panels (it was an option with these funds) and that would free up general funds that could be used anywhere. I got crickets basically. The administration are big track people, so I wasn’t going to get a response.
 
The local school just spent 3/4MM on a track renovation for 2 meets a year. They really went all out. The reasoning was they had too many funds in a certain account. I asked why not use those funds for solar panels (it was an option with these funds) and that would free up general funds that could be used anywhere. I got crickets basically. The administration are big track people, so I wasn’t going to get a response.
There's your problem.......
 
Public schools have a distinct disadvantage to private schools. Private schools can recruit players for their HS teams. Put all the private schools in one class. It is not a fair system with private schools having an advantage.
This true but not relevant from the way it sounds.
 
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Ankeny's 3rd high school is supposed to be an "innovative secondary hub" of sorts that students from both high schools can attend in block increments and still play sports for their resident building. It's about 5-8 years from opening

Which to me is just dumb. Just make another high school.
 
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