TILLER!

The ONE thing Tiller deserves credit for tonight is that fact that he didn't turn the ball over. That said, he has a lot of improving to do before he's ready to be a full-time starting quarterback.
 
Just remember... UNI gives up over 300 yds passing EVERY game. Tiller put up 90.

Now tell me how good he is?

At this rate, does Tom Herman still have a job next year? You almost can't try to be this unproductive. It's unreal.

I think before you can answer this question, the question you have to ask is, is the playcalling this "inept" simply because the talent is that inept, or is he simply that inept? My guess is Hermann looks inept simply because he cannot open up the offense with the players he has. If our WRs cannot gain separation against the DBs that UNI had, how is he supposed to call up plays for a downfield passing game? It just doesn't add up. I mean, we're lucky that ARob can get the yards he's able to get with the defenses stacking the box against the run. With our WRs that inept at gaining separation from the DBs, they don't have to commit extra players to the passing game.
 
I am so tired of you babies crying about how Arnaud has had to learn 3 play books. He is a Big 12 QB, if he cant learn the system he shouldn't play.
 
The ONE thing Tiller deserves credit for tonight is that fact that he didn't turn the ball over. That said, he has a lot of improving to do before he's ready to be a full-time starting quarterback.

How many times did Arnaud turn the ball over last week? That's what I thought...
 
Arnaud is in his second season in this offense, and some of you are trying to say that he's getting confused because he had to learn Barney Cotton's offense when he redshirted 4 years ago. Got ya.
 
I am so tired of you babies crying about how Arnaud has had to learn 3 play books. He is a Big 12 QB, if he cant learn the system he shouldn't play.

How many Big 12 QBs had to learn a new playbook every other year? That's right - NONE. Perhaps that's why every other school in the Big 12 has a stable QB situation.
 
What is your point?

Why does Tiller get "credit" for not committing any turnovers this week, when Arnaud did the same last week, but the fans were practically ready to revoke his scholarship because he overthrew ARob in the final minutes (funny how Tiller overthrew a receiver earlier in the K-State game and all anyone could say is "look at the 'touch' on that pass")?

IMO you can't have it both ways.
 
Oh, and I love how the OP, HerkyKiller, has not been back in this thread to backup his ridiculous opening statement.
 
Arnaud is in his second season in this offense, and some of you are trying to say that he's getting confused because he had to learn Barney Cotton's offense when he redshirted 4 years ago. Got ya.

I'm actually suggesting Arnaud's been RUINED by being in 3 different offenses in his career - and yet he's still our BEST option at the position.
 
Nope, not even similar. Arnaud put up much better numbers against much tougher teams. Tiller did basically nothing against a bad secondary. Period. You also can't separate fact from excuse. It actually amazes me that you hire anyone with the kind of logic you use. Remind me not to contact you when I look to hire. I don't hire people who can't think logically or at least rationally. I don't like whiners either.

Arnaud is more accurate (still not very accurate), but has no touch and has a ton of turnovers.
Tiller is not accurate, but does not turn the ball over.
Both QB's are not good. Arnaud is obviously better, but the only time he put up decent numbers was against Northern Illinois. (Which I would say is fairly close to UNI.)

J. Tiller (vs. UNI)
Comp. 11/22
Yards 87
Av. 4.0
TD 0
INT 0

Final Score 27-0.

A. Arnaud (vs. Northern Illinois)
Comp. 27/36
Yards 265
Av. 7.4
TD 0
INT 2

Final Score 27-10.
 
How many Big 12 QBs had to learn a new playbook every other year? That's right - NONE. Perhaps that's why every other school in the Big 12 has a stable QB situation.

If your playing at a high level you better be able to learn a new one. so you are right its to hard for Arnaud to learn a new system. he should just stay on the bench. Thanks for fighting for my side.:wink:
 
I am so tired of you babies crying about how Arnaud has had to learn 3 play books. He is a Big 12 QB, if he cant learn the system he shouldn't play.

You never played football did you? Your statement is ridiculous. To speak to your point, then I guess we should play without a QB.
 
You AA fans really like to stroke his you know what dont you. Tiller looked way better than AA ever has. He doesnt have "touch" ******** he has just as much if not more than AA.
 
Why does Tiller get "credit" for not committing any turnovers this week, when Arnaud did the same last week, but the fans were practically ready to revoke his scholarship because he overthrew ARob in the final minutes (funny how Tiller overthrew a receiver earlier in the K-State game and all anyone could say is "look at the 'touch' on that pass")?

IMO you can't have it both ways.

Because despite not turning it over last week, Arnaud still has 5 interceptions in two games and has a history of throwing too many interceptions. What is confusing about that?

I completely agree that Arnaud is our quarterback, and our offensive production is appalling, but there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
 
Actually yes i did. I posted how i thought Arnaud sucks. and I got hammerd for it. Believe me I didnt want to be right but any idiot who watched games last year could see this coming. I never once believed Arnuad was good or had gotten better. if any thing he still sucks and everyone else got worse.
AA best year was as a soph. Must be the system.
 
Arnaud is more accurate (still not very accurate), but has no touch and has a ton of turnovers.
Tiller is not accurate, but does not turn the ball over.
Both QB's are not good. Arnaud is obviously better, but the only time he put up decent numbers was against Northern Illinois. (Which I would say is fairly comparable to UNI.)

J. Tiller (vs. UNI)
Comp. 11/22
Yards 87
Av. 4.0
TD 0
INT 0

Final Score 27-0.

A. Arnaud (vs. Northern Illinois)
Comp. 27/36
Yards 265
Av. 7.4
TD 0
INT 2

Final Score 27-10.

I'd take less yards over 2 interceptions anyday.
 

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