This is why Prohm must go........

[madguy30]

Leaving Manhattan on Feb. 16, we were either tied or a half of a game out from first place in the conference. All we had to do was win out (against the bottom half of the conference), or could've possibly gotten away with a loss, and had something fall in place. But instead, we proceeded to lose 5 out of 6 of those games, including by 15 to the last place team.

Also, this whole conference tournament championship is not a good measure of a successful season, at all. Especially when you don't do anything to show for it the week after.

Yep and you don't know what happened to make that February lull happen. Sounds like things were OK at that point and then they weren't. If players had one foot out the door, then I guess don't play them? And then things get worse with less talent?

Was the 14-15 season a success? I mean, ISU was just LOADED with fringe NBA and overseas players and they just had to win at Texas Tech, and hold a lead vs. Baylor in Hilton, and win at 8th place KSU and they win the conference title going away.

Because the B12 tournament and NCAA tourney berth were not good measures of success, right?

 

[jcisuclones]

This was your expectation coming off the 17-18 season?

Going into 17-18, everyone knew that was going to be a rough season. But yes, I did expect at least a second round with last year’s team going into the season.

 

[IASTATE07]

Going into 17-18, everyone knew that was going to be a rough season. But yes, I did expect at least a second round with last year’s team going into the season.

No way I believe that.

 

[jcisuclones]

Yep and you don't know what happened to make that February lull happen. Sounds like things were OK at that point and then they weren't. If players had one foot out the door, then I guess don't play them? And then things get worse with less talent?

Was the 14-15 season a success? I mean, ISU was just LOADED with fringe NBA and overseas players and they just had to win at Texas Tech, and hold a lead vs. Baylor in Hilton, and win at 8th place KSU and they win the conference title going away.

Because the B12 tournament and NCAA tourney berth were not good measures of success, right?

Do you think Virginia fans see the 17-18 season as a success after getting bounced first round To a 16 seed? Hell, even the players don’t think it was...

 

[jcisuclones]

No way I believe that.

Explain.

 

[madguy30]

No way I believe that.

I don't think anyone knew what to expect from last year.

Some talent but young talent with unpredictability like most teams with young talent experience.

 

[Urbandale2013]

Was the 14-15 season a success? I mean, ISU was just LOADED with fringe NBA and overseas players and they just had to win at Texas Tech, and hold a lead vs. Baylor in Hilton, and win at 8th place KSU and they win the conference title going away.

No!!

I’m not sure if people don’t understand this but I don’t think most people found the 14-15 to be overly successful. Then or now.

 

[IASTATE07]

Explain.

After everything you have said about Prohm, there is no way I believe you thought we would be a second round team coming off that disaster of a season.

 

[madguy30]

Do you think Virginia fans see the 17-18 season as a success after getting bounced first round To a 16 seed? Hell, even the players don’t think it was...

I don't know. A 1 seed is a pretty great season. I'd bet anyone asking for Tony Bennett to be fired after that are happy he stuck around after winning it all for the only time in school history.

Do you think the Iowa State's 14-15 season was a success?

 

[jcisuclones]

After everything you have said about Prohm, there is no way I believe you thought we would be a second round team coming off that disaster of a season.

With what we had coming in, I absolutely believed last season could’ve been a success.

 

[madguy30]

No!!

I’m not sure if people don’t understand this but I don’t think most people found the 14-15 to be overly successful. Then or now.

So being ranked all season, a 2nd place conference finish and a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament are not successful at ISU?

Geez.

 

[IASTATE07]

No!!

I’m not sure if people don’t understand this but I don’t think most people found the 14-15 to be overly successful. Then or now.

Holy **** what a terrible take.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Holy **** what a terrible take.

You know it's bad when people start diminishing what Fred did just to make Steve look bad. I loved Fred, and I like Steve......but this BS had gone too far.

 

[jcisuclones]

I don't know. A 1 seed is a pretty great season. I'd bet anyone asking for Tony Bennett to be fired after that are happy he stuck around after winning it all for the only time in school history.

Do you think the Iowa State's 14-15 season was a success?

If Steve Prohm got Iowa State to a 1 seed and got bounced first round, I wouldn’t call for his job. However, that still wouldn’t be a successful season.

And no, I don’t think 14-15 was a success. It was a good season, however.

The seasons before and after 14-15 were successes, imo.

 

[Urbandale2013]

So being ranked all season, a 2nd place conference finish and a 3 seed in the NCAA tournament are not successful at ISU?

Geez.

Was it a absolute failure of a season no it wasn’t either. It was an ok season that historically was successful but never reached its full potential because of some off the court issues.

The difference then was the program was still moving on a really good trajectory. Great programs have bad years. There isn’t really anything wrong with that. Great programs do not have bad years combined with even worse years.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

If Steve Prohm got Iowa State to a 1 seed and got bounced first round, I wouldn’t call for his job. However, that still wouldn’t be a successful season.

And no, I don’t think 14-15 was a success. It was a good season, however.

The seasons before and after 14-15 were successes, imo.

So now we are hair splitting between "success" and "good"? Then the only "bad" year Prohm has had is 17-18. Which everyone....at least up until now has given him that. So three "good" years merit's all this find another job BS?

 

[jcisuclones]

So now we are hair splitting between "success" and "good"? Then the only "bad" year Prohm has had is 17-18. Which everyone....at least up until now has given him that. So three "good" years merit's all this find another job BS?

You can have a good season, but have it still not be successful.

 

[IASTATE07]

Was it a absolute failure of a season no it wasn’t either. It was an ok season that historically was successful but never reached its full potential because of some off the court issues.

The difference then was the program was still moving on a really good trajectory. Great programs have bad years. There isn’t really anything wrong with that. Great programs do not have bad years combined with even worse years.

If Steve Prohm got Iowa State to a 1 seed and got bounced first round, I wouldn’t call for his job. However, that still wouldn’t be a successful season.

And no, I don’t think 14-15 was a success. It was a good season, however.

The seasons before and after 14-15 were successes, imo.

I'm going to chalk up both of these posters to young age (early-mid 20s). Hope they gain some perspective.

 

[jcisuclones]

I'm going to chalk up both of these posters to young age (early-mid 20s). Hope they gain some perspective.

And I’m going to chalk you up as someone in their mid-40’s early-50’s who thinks they know what the he’ll they’re talking about, because you haven’t shown that you have a clue. Does Steve have your nudes or something?

 

[ISUAgronomist]

It's starting to smell like McDermott-esque goal tending in here...