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You admit garza is "that good" but you can't understand the idea of how important a simple pass is to him on the block? I don't get it. He's not poor defensively
Anyone at that position is going to be able to throw in a simple pass to Garza.

He's awful defensively
 
Do you think Joe T should start over Jordan?
For most part yes. Last night Jordan really played better defensively though. Its almost more upsetting because idk why he doesn't always play with that same effort? First 9 games Bohannon was a killer. Last night he was the mvp yes he made shots but he wasn't a liability on other end. Idk i guess. Definitely needs to have short hook if he's playing like he did vs Gonzaga
 
Yep, only joy ISU fans get this Bball season is rooting for Iowa to lose.

Big 10 is a meat grinder this year. 14-6 might win the conference.

Big 10 has a lot of good teams, similar to what the Big 12 had been the last 7-8 years when it was the best conference per Ken Pom. Because of the parity going to be tough to escape with 5 or fewer losses.

Big 12 is pretty binary this year. 5 bad to mediocre teams. Then the other half of the league is in the top 13.
 
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For most part yes. Last night Jordan really played better defensively though. Its almost more upsetting because idk why he doesn't always play with that same effort? First 9 games Bohannon was a killer. Last night he was the mvp yes he made shots but he wasn't a liability on other end. Idk i guess. Definitely needs to have short hook if he's playing like he did vs Gonzaga



Quality of players at Northwestern vs quality of players at Gonzaga?
 
Big 10 has a lot of good teams, similar to what the Big 12 had been the last 7-8 years when it was the best conference per Ken Pom. Because of the parity going to be tough to escape with 5 or fewer losses.

Big 12 is pretty binary this year. 5 bad to mediocre teams. Then the other half of the league is in the top 13.
Tough to tell so far IMO. I legit believe Iowa is good but we need to see more. From the sounds of it Iowa struggled at times last night and most probably don't have NW as a tournament team. If you take NW's kenpom ranking and add them into the B12, they'd be 8th out of 11th and would be in your bad to mediocre range.
 
Tough to tell so far IMO. I legit believe Iowa is good but we need to see more. From the sounds of it Iowa struggled at times last night and most probably don't have NW as a tournament team. If you take NW's kenpom ranking and add them into the B12, they'd be 8th out of 11th and would be in your bad to mediocre range.

Iowa beat a ranked team last night by 15 points. Iowa is going to have keep bringing it every night in order to have a winning record and more in the big 10 this year.
 
For most part yes. Last night Jordan really played better defensively though. Its almost more upsetting because idk why he doesn't always play with that same effort? First 9 games Bohannon was a killer. Last night he was the mvp yes he made shots but he wasn't a liability on other end. Idk i guess. Definitely needs to have short hook if he's playing like he did vs Gonzaga
It’s probably hard for him to do it every night physically. He’s had a ton of wear and tear.

While I have no doubt he loves playing for Iowa maybe he’s a little burned out mentally. He’s probably been grinding since junior high. I’m sure he takes plenty of social media **** since he’s been struggling. I think we underestimate what a grind it is for these guys, especially a guy that lacks physical gifts. I am sure for a guy like that it’s been over a decade of grinding. You are bound to have some days where you just don’t have it.
 
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Iowa beat a ranked team last night by 15 points. Iowa is going to have keep bringing it every night in order to have a winning record and more in the big 10 this year.
What will be telling is if Iowa can beat good teams away from home. That will be what can elevate them from just another 6-7 seed to a 1-3.
 
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Iowa beat a ranked team last night by 15 points. Iowa is going to have keep bringing it every night in order to have a winning record and more in the big 10 this year.
And they were also only up 3 with 10 min to go but I am glad you are on the "ranking at the time" side of the rankings debate. Iowa's defense will be the key.
 
You admit garza is "that good" but you can't understand the idea of how important a simple pass is to him on the block? I don't get it. He's not poor defensively
He is poor defensively. It’s the reason he won’t be in the NBA for very long, if it all. The scouts literally say it. He wouldn’t last a game with the spacing on pick and rolls in the NBA.
 
What will be telling is if Iowa can beat good teams away from home. That will be what can elevate them from just another 6-7 seed to a 1-3.

I agree. They blew it against a good Minny team the other night. That was a Gesell era collapse.
 
And they were also only up 3 with 10 min to go but I am glad you are on the "ranking at the time" side of the rankings debate. Iowa's defense will be the key.

Iowa has beaten the last 8 ranked teams at home. Carver Magic!
 
Disagree Connor is probably best post feeder in the country and I've said that before last night when the brillant jess settles echoed my thoughts. Really he's just a great distributor. Teams have made the proper adjustments and started doubling Garza off connor but too connor's credit he's adjusted and started to cut towards basket and find our shooters. Connors basketball iq is a big part of the offensive success.
I was personally hoping for a little more out of Patrick but he's certainly not terrible.
Yes but hes eliminated that problem as i mentioned because hes started crashing. They certainly have to account for him in the paint no?
Thats the thing about connor he recognizes his limitations and works around them and finds the other guys. It would be different if he was trying to put up 15 every night. He's a tough player too. Rebounds plays the four spot at 6"4. Iowa state could use his leadership
Connor's basketball IQ is so high that it took him two years to figure out he should be cutting to the basket because he is a bad shooter? Is that what you're saying?
 
He is poor defensively. It’s the reason he won’t be in the NBA for very long, if it all. The scouts literally say it. He wouldn’t last a game with the spacing on pick and rolls in the NBA.
We were talking about connor in that post but get the confusion. Yes garza is limited defensively
 
Connor's basketball IQ is so high that it took him two years to figure out he should be cutting to the basket because he is a bad shooter? Is that what you're saying?
No. They weren't playing garza like this 2 or even a year ago
 
It’s probably hard for him to do it every night physically. He’s had a ton of wear and tear.

While I have no doubt he loves playing for Iowa maybe he’s a little burned out mentally. He’s probably been grinding since junior high. I’m sure he takes plenty of social media **** since he’s been struggling. I think we underestimate what a grind it is for these guys, especially a guy that lacks physical gifts. I am sure for a guy like that it’s been over a decade of grinding. You are bound to have some days where you just don’t have it.
Some of this is true but i also think he could of been more engaged defensively in the beginning of the year. I thought he had lost a full step after the problems with the hip but he was moving as well as he ever has last night. Which is still not quick but quicker. I have no idea of how he recovers when its a quick turnaround to the next game. If he's going to talk as much as he does i would like to see last nights effort as much as possible though
 
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Disagree Connor is probably best post feeder in the country and I've said that before last night when the brillant jess settles echoed my thoughts. Really he's just a great distributor. Teams have made the proper adjustments and started doubling Garza off connor but too connor's credit he's adjusted and started to cut towards basket and find our shooters. Connors basketball iq is a big part of the offensive success.
I was personally hoping for a little more out of Patrick but he's certainly not terrible.
You know who Hawkeye fans raved about his ability to feed the post? Andrew Fleming. Unfortunately for him, he didn't have the last name McCaffery so he barely played and eventually got Franned.
 
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