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So, you guys practice that much but the band members can't get their music memorized?

Pretty bad having all of the band members fumbling around with music sheets while they're trying to march.

Also, the drum majors/majorettes have their backs to the field, you band members are the ones playing the instruments and can see what is going on out on the field. You have the ultimate power to stop playing when the team is ready to begin play again....so use it, is what I guess I'm trying to say.
 
BryceC said:
I agree with what you're sayin ornry, but if it was a fan with an air horn or some other noisemaking device that caused a false start we would be ripping them up and down. Bottom line is that the Band has always cut it close and has oftentimes played after the ball has been snapped, it hasn't just been this year. They need to figure out a way to not do this anymore.

Also, personal request, please stop playing that song that everybody says "don't know the words, to this stupid f-ing song". I know it's not your fault, but if you give drunk idiots the opportunity to be drunk idiots, they are going to take it every time.
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This discussion has been brought up in band before. The song is a traditional school song, so we play it. Do we encourage people to sing the unofficial words? Absolutely not. As a matter of fact we are told to discourage our friends from singing that way, but there's not a lot we can do about it. And 'Go Cyclones, Go!' isn't the only song that includes foul language which drunk people are going to yell out. I know its not pleasant, but there's nothing the band can personally do about it, and its a traditional school song, so we shouldn't have to remove it. Besides, if our higher-ups wanted it removed, it would be.

Also, to those of you who are angry with the band about that one false start..... I'm going to keep cool about my response. We're sorry it happened, and it shouldn't have, we know, but there's no reason people should be griping about us because of that one instance. Besides, the reason we play so close to the ball being snapped is because we're supposed to keep sound going in the stadium and keep the crowd into it... we're there for the crowd and for the team, to be a major vocal support. I agree, we ended a little late on that snap and I noticed the team was upset. It was a mistake, and it shouldn't happen again. And trust me, we don't want stuff like that to happen, but we follow our drum majors who follow their own orders and occasionally slip ups occur.

Also, I know those people bad-mouthing the band are in the minority, so I won't make a big statement, but for those of you... please, there's no reason for it.

Oh, and one last thing for thought.... I agree that we shouldn't be playing during the snap, however our team has to be able to deal with lots of noise, am I correct? Are the Iowa fans in Kinnick not going to be screaming as loud as they can next week to throw our offense off? Our team should be more disciplined than that. Instead of worrying about the band, they should be worrying about playing the game and beating their opponent, especially with the offense's performance last night.
 
ISUAlum2002 said:
So, you guys practice that much but the band members can't get their music memorized?

Pretty bad having all of the band members fumbling around with music sheets while they're trying to march.

Also, the drum majors/majorettes have their backs to the field, you band members are the ones playing the instruments and can see what is going on out on the field. You have the ultimate power to stop playing when the team is ready to begin play again....so use it, is what I guess I'm trying to say.
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The problem with that is that there's no way a group of 340 people are going to independently stop at the exact same time in the middle of a song. There will be trail offs. Also, that shows disrespect to your leaders, and it makes the band sound terrible if your cutoffs aren't clean. Then it sounds like people don't know what they're doing, and by the contrary, we do. In any case, that type of thing will not work. Trust me. We can alert the drum majors to not start playing, in the case of a flag or injury, but we can't all just suddenly quit. It doesn't work.

Also, about the memorizing music, we do have a lot of new members. Not all of them have every single stand tune, cheer, blah blah memorized. You can't expect them to immediately. Oh, and as far as half time goes, its nice to have the music memorized, but memorizing three songs and all the marching drill in about 4 days is difficult to do.
 
Skyh13 said:
This discussion has been brought up in band before. The song is a traditional school song, so we play it. Do we encourage people to sing the unofficial words? Absolutely not. As a matter of fact we are told to discourage our friends from singing that way, but there's not a lot we can do about it. And 'Go Cyclones, Go!' isn't the only song that includes foul language which drunk people are going to yell out. I know its not pleasant, but there's nothing the band can personally do about it, and its a traditional school song, so we shouldn't have to remove it. Besides, if our higher-ups wanted it removed, it would be.

Also, to those of you who are angry with the band about that one false start..... I'm going to keep cool about my response. We're sorry it happened, and it shouldn't have, we know, but there's no reason people should be griping about us because of that one instance. Besides, the reason we play so close to the ball being snapped is because we're supposed to keep sound going in the stadium and keep the crowd into it... we're there for the crowd and for the team, to be a major vocal support. I agree, we ended a little late on that snap and I noticed the team was upset. It was a mistake, and it shouldn't happen again. And trust me, we don't want stuff like that to happen, but we follow our drum majors who follow their own orders and occasionally slip ups occur.

Also, I know those people bad-mouthing the band are in the minority, so I won't make a big statement, but for those of you... please, there's no reason for it.

Oh, and one last thing for thought.... I agree that we shouldn't be playing during the snap, however our team has to be able to deal with lots of noise, am I correct? Are the Iowa fans in Kinnick not going to be screaming as loud as they can next week to throw our offense off? Our team should be more disciplined than that. Instead of worrying about the band, they should be worrying about playing the game and beating their opponent, especially with the offense's performance last night.
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I agree completely.
 
If the refs really wanted to be jerks, they could also apply a penatly for the band playing into the snap. This also concerns me. And I have emailed the band director to stop playing what is apparently called "Go Cyclones Go" and I've written letters to the editor of the Daily in a appeal to stop the band from playing the song. I feel very strongly about the band not playing it anymore because I think the result of it being played is an embarrassment (especially during basketball games when it's obvious what the students are yelling).

I know there are a lot of band members that take a great deal of joy from it and I'm friends with a guy that used to be a drum major for several years. I am happy you guys enjoy it and it is part of what is hopefully a great experience at ISU. But to say there is nothing you can do about Go Cyclone Go is ridiculous. That's like a parent that keeps a fridge full of beer being surprised that their teenager would drink it when they aren't looking. Hey, if you give irresponsible people the chance to be irresponsible, they will take it. It's the parent's responsibility to take those easy opportunities out of their kids' hands.
 
When I say there isn't a lot the band can do about it... I'm being serious. The band members themselves can't personally stop people from yelling that stuff, and it isn't up to us to choose what we play. I honestly don't know how far up the chain it goes before someone has the executive authority to change our pre-game lineup, but they obviously know people aren't real happy about the "new words" a lot of students yell. That's why we've been told to try to get our friends to not yell that stuff. Honestly, only time will tell what ends up happening with "Go Cyclones, Go!", but we'll see I guess.

Also, your comment about a penalty for the band playing into the snap... I was also very worried about that being a possibility last night, and we all know that. The intention isn't to play into the snap, it was an honest mistake. All of last year I don't recall us doing that, and if it happened, it perhaps occured once throughout the season. But just take my word that our intention is full well to stop the playing before snap, and that's the way it is to be done.
 
BryceC said:
If the refs really wanted to be jerks, they could also apply a penatly for the band playing into the snap. This also concerns me. And I have emailed the band director to stop playing what is apparently called "Go Cyclones Go" and I've written letters to the editor of the Daily in a appeal to stop the band from playing the song. I feel very strongly about the band not playing it anymore because I think the result of it being played is an embarrassment (especially during basketball games when it's obvious what the students are yelling).
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I've been to MANY basketball games (and football games), and I've never, EVER heard those words being yelled along with "Go Cyclones Go". Matter of fact, this thread is the first time I've even heard of those words being used to sing along with it. As far as I knew, there weren't any words to "Go Cyclones Go", and it was just a pep up type of quick song.
 
I am an ISU Marching Band Alum and I give ornryactor big props for pointing out what kind of committment being in the marching requires. I was in the band when our football team was 0-10-1. The band was there for every game cheering. There were fans at that time admitted that the band was the best part of the game.
We were out in the freezing cold playing and cheering for the team. I play a brass instrument.....remember touching your tongue to metal when it is freezing outside and your flesh sticking to it?...welcome my my world.

Ornry - one of my former roommates called me after halftime to tell me how awesome the band sounded. You all sounded great last year when I was back for Homecoming too, so keep up the good work!
 
BryceC said:
If the refs really wanted to be jerks, they could also apply a penatly for the band playing into the snap. This also concerns me. And I have emailed the band director to stop playing what is apparently called "Go Cyclones Go" and I've written letters to the editor of the Daily in a appeal to stop the band from playing the song. I feel very strongly about the band not playing it anymore because I think the result of it being played is an embarrassment (especially during basketball games when it's obvious what the students are yelling).

I know there are a lot of band members that take a great deal of joy from it and I'm friends with a guy that used to be a drum major for several years. I am happy you guys enjoy it and it is part of what is hopefully a great experience at ISU. But to say there is nothing you can do about Go Cyclone Go is ridiculous. That's like a parent that keeps a fridge full of beer being surprised that their teenager would drink it when they aren't looking. Hey, if you give irresponsible people the chance to be irresponsible, they will take it. It's the parent's responsibility to take those easy opportunities out of their kids' hands.
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Can they penalize the team for fan conduct?

I think they can, but I am not completely sure.

I was quite surprised we didnt get unsportmanlike conduct penality when the fan threw the water bottle onto the field (I presume it was from the student section as I was sitting about halfway up in the bottom level of the student section and it came right over my head) and it nearly hit the refs. That would have been real great, essentially giving UNLV 1st and goal @ the 1. The way the refs were going last night, I was just waiting for the yellow flag to come flying out.
 
"The band sometimes needs to tone it down and realize they are not the main show, the football is." Perfectly said. I thought the same thing again last night.

I can not stand our band most of the time. They sound well when they play, but they play at horrible times during the game.

To think that a few hundred band members will be a big contingent of ISU fans at Iowa next week is rediculous. ITS THE BAND
 
This saturday the band will be louder than any other section of isu fans in kinnick. quite possibly louder than all the other isu fans combined. And i'm not talking about when they're playing. Give them a reason to cheer and back the team up, and they'll out-yell just about any other isu section. take it to the bank.
 
ajk4st8 said:
"The band sometimes needs to tone it down and realize they are not the main show, the football is." Perfectly said. I thought the same thing again last night.

I can not stand our band most of the time. They sound well when they play, but they play at horrible times during the game.

To think that a few hundred band members will be a big contingent of ISU fans at Iowa next week is rediculous. ITS THE BAND[/quote

Umm, there is really nothing ridiculous about it. First off, the 350 ISU band students will cheer as loudly if not louder at Iowa then any other section of fans.

I have been to 2 ISU-Iowa games at Iowa. If I am going to give credit to the Hawkeyes, something I do VERY rarely, it is that they fill up the stadium with their fans and sell it out no matter who the opponent. I would guess the ratio if Hawk to Cyclone fans is about 80%-20% and I think I am being generous. I dont know anywhere else in the staduim you are going to find a group a 350 students standing and cheering the entire game for ISU. Generally, ISU fans are spaced apart from each other unless you happend to get a seat in the visitiors section down in the corner of the stadium.

You want to talk about bad music at horrible times during the game, how about SWEEEEET CAROLINE blaring over the speakers minutes before the biggest play of the game.

Nothing gets me more pumped up then a little Neil Diamond :eek4wd::oo7dt::no6xn: (are any of these the sarcasim face?)
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The way our team is playing one false start might lose a game. Band is great. Band makes mistakes due to poor direction juust like coaching does. All forgiven, but one more Panther game to get up to speed. Thenm the season begins. We are not good enbough to have the band screw up one play. So maybe they need another spotter to tell the drum majors to cool it. The game rules are different this year and change of mposserssion has bno timeouts. We can also play Bon Jovi for 30 second fillers if it is a problem.
I would not be saying this if we had won 42-10 Saturday.
 
My intention of this thread was not to rip the band. I personally like the band. I understand how much of a commitment it is to be in the band, but I was critizing the mistake. I know how the communication works with the press box/band, but I still think that it shouldn't happen. (overplaying). Sorry if I offended anyone, because I really do appreciate all their hard work.
 
I can't believe a few F-bombs bothers you that much.

Plus the band puts up with a whole lot of crap, my old roomate was in the band and he was telling me about a contingent who had to march in front of the student section at Kinnick and all I could think was "poor bastards". Though they shouldn't be playing during the game, I'm confident it won't happen again this year.
 
Wow, why are all of you taking this so personally. I said that the band should not have to be "THE PRIDE OF IOWA STATE", you are responding as if i kicked the drum major in the nuts and am petitioning to have the band removed. This is not to discredit the band but ask yourself, "Why is the football team not the pride of iowa state, lets get Mac in the ****ing game and make football our pride."

Yes there were years where we sucked so bad that the band was the only stability in our life, but those were also the years when we had no chance against Iowa. And trust me, that is not now.........
 
We apparently are looking for excuses that the two big wins agauinst stiff competition came down to one play at the end. We aklso remmeber four old overtime games. We did notice that the offensive line was not as sharp in game two as in game one.
 
I think we have the best college band around, better than any I have personally heard, and that includes the self proclaimed legendary Texas A and M band. I always get into the stadium in time to hear JB Larkin introduce the band and play Fanfare. I think they are a vital component of the game day experience and help create home field advantage.

I don't even have a problem with the band pushing the envelope by playing when the other team is in the huddle and approaching the line of scrimmage-just don't do it when we have the ball, especially when we're at the north end of the field-that's all
 
I thought it was great that the band stuck it out for the staredown between UNLV and the fans. Playing a couple of things helped lighten the mood as much as it could be at that point. Their uniforms and instruments were getting wet, and they could have just said, "Screw it," and gone home.
 
I don't know that Texas A&M band was pretty good, they were doing things on that field I didn't even know were happening.
 
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