That's Why You Foul

Hindsight? Everyone in the building knew that a foul was coming. Even the announcers, who may be among the stupidest people on the planet, were discussing the foul that they knew was coming.

They were discussing fouling but Doherty said he never fouled in that situation . Although, I do wish we would have fouled.
 
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That game was lost with Korie's missed FT's and Babb/McGee badly misplaying that last screen.
 
I agree that is why you foul leading by three points, but where was any advantageous time out in overtime as well? Coaches are supposed to coach, calm them down, make a play, but do something other, than like the rest of us, watch three minutes pass and go down by ten.
 
Standing in the bar, can't hear the game, everyone in there immediately said 'foul'. Foul!!!! Niang fouled out, we need to foul. With Niang in the game, maybe you do it different, but Niang was out. We didn't foul and the guy that has been on fire banks in a 3. Exactly as you'd have to expect. We all called the foul with 8 seconds to go. Damn!!

Maybe that's why all of those peeps were in a random bar and not on the sidelines coaching a Big 12 game. Just saying.
 
Too bad Self said he wouldn't have fouled either. But don't be swayed by his opinion.

There's NO way in the world that Bill Self would answer that question tonight any other way, unless he's a complete and total d-bag. You really think he would come out and say, "Yeah, I definately would have fouled in that situation, I don't know what in the world Fred was thinking?".

Just look back at the ISU-Texas womens game last week. ISU had a 3 pt lead in that one too as time was expiring. And Texas' best player was allowed to shoot a game tying 3 to send that game into OT as well. Luckily, we were able to pull that one out in OT though.

The only difference in that situation was that she was left wide open somehow? At least KU's best shooter was guarded when he broke our back.
 
The only difference in that situation was that she was left wide open somehow? At least KU's best shooter was guarded when he broke our back.

No actually he wasn't guarded, Babb and McGee misplayed that last screen. He went under the screen and gave him a look. That was the critical mistake.
 
No actually he wasn't guarded, Babb and McGee misplayed that last screen. He went under the screen and gave him a look. That was the critical mistake.

And one of the ESPN announcers just said as much during the highlights/recap of the game.
 
No actually he wasn't guarded, Babb and McGee misplayed that last screen. He went under the screen and gave him a look. That was the critical mistake.

Ok, so do you think it might have been a good idea to call a timeout before KU inbounded that ball with 10 seconds left, even if you decided not to foul (wrongly), just to make sure everyone knew what to do on switching on the ball screens?
 
Tell me how many times you have seen a College Team foul in that situation. I am sure it has been done, but I don't recall any. I think most coaches prefer to play it out. The kid made a lucky shot, it happens.

If we foul, Kansas has the chance to make the first free throw and miss the second. On the second, Kansas (with their size) can get a rebound and a put back bucket to tie it. If we foul them on the put back, they have the chance to win in regulation. the other concern is you foul by mistake on a three point shot and it turns in to a 4 point play. This option is not automatic either or you would see it done more often.
 
Self at one time said mcdermott was the perfect fit for isu. Face it guys, fred lost that game tonight.
 
Self at one time said mcdermott was the perfect fit for isu. Face it guys, fred lost that game tonight.
McDermott fooled everyone. He was successful at UNI and is now kicking *** at Creighton. He is a good coach at the right school. ISU was not right for him. Self isnt an idiot. Hoiberg is already doing way better at ISU and he is getting national props, not just from Self.
 
Ok, so do you think it might have been a good idea to call a timeout before KU inbounded that ball with 10 seconds left, even if you decided not to foul (wrongly), just to make sure everyone knew what to do on switching on the ball screens?

Sure, but its also reasonable to expect players with the experience we have to know that and execute it without being told. You also give KU a chance to setup a play with a timeout there.
 
Everyone is a genius after the fact.
The thing is, if we fouled we could have lost the game just as easily.
They make front end > Miss second > Tallest player on court (Withey) tips it out > McLemore gets the ball > Puts up the three > We lose > Every single one of you say we shouldn't have fouled.
 
Example: OU was fouled. Missed the first. Missed second. Pledger almost tied it.
[video=youtube;5y97EDRVTM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y97EDRVTM4[/video]
 

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