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Templeton Rye is a Fake

Well known by those who drink it. Does it really matter where it is distilled? Aren't you looking for quality, flavor, uniqueness, etc.?

If you want a true Iowa product, try Cedar Ridge Bourbon. Good stuff as well. 100% Iowa.
 
CyinCo said:
Well known by those who drink it. Does it really matter where it is distilled? Aren't you looking for quality, flavor, uniqueness, etc.?

If you want a true Iowa product, try Cedar Ridge Bourbon. Good stuff as well. 100% Iowa.
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Do you have a recommendation for an alternative small batch Rye Whiskey?
 
I actually believe many of the "distillers" when they say these aren't "off-the-shelf" products as the writer suggests but are contract-distilled instead. I'll admit they could be plain lying, but what they say makes sense. This is no different than contract brewing in the beer industry. That 21st Amendment Bitter American you think you're drinking from San Francisco was actually brewed in Cold Spring, MN. As was that Tallgrass 8-Bit you think was from KS. But that doesn't mean Cold Spring Brewing is just brewing up one giant batch and throwing it in a different package. They're still proprietary recipes designed by their respective brewmasters and done in a much smaller batch than a macro. Combining all the "other breweries' beer" Cold Spring does, makes them a top 30 craft house, in terms of volume. But that's the aggregate of several small batches.

I'll agree that the marketing feels deceptive. But, um, it's marketing. Puffery abounds in business. (Is every toilet paper manufacturer really making the softest roll?) Not even most "farm-to-table" restaurants get all their ingredients locally (you mean I can't get fresh fruit in Iowa in December?!). So, you're not drinking something locally produced. You're still supporting a locally owned company.

Finally, drink what you like. That should be all that's needed.
 
Go2Guy said:
Do you have a recommendation for an alternative small batch Rye Whiskey?
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I don't actually. You'll find that many of the small batch ryes are from the small distillery in IN. That doesn't mean they all taste the same as that is only part of the process before it get put into the bottle.

I do know that from the world of Marco brands, Knob Creek has a rye. I suspect it isn't 100% rye though.
 
It's been common knowledge for a while in whiskey'drinking circles yet never really discussed.

State laws usually differentiate between distilling, aging, and bottling of alcohols and so many places by Indiana whiskey and bottle it at their location, thus fulfilling one obligation of the law.

If you read some labels it will say "distilled and bottled in XYZ"
 
How this affects the uniqueness of the products I'm guessing nobody truly knows outside of those at that Indiana facility, but it's at least disingenuous according to what the general thoughts on what buying local is supposed to do for the local economy and environment. I'm sure these local brands selling non locally made products still have some positive effect on local economies but not as much as they would if they were actually making the products (as is usually thought with food and drinks).

Environmentally it's very clear cut that there's no benefit to buying local if it's this kind of local, it could often be better environmentally to buy from a huge company with a complete manufacturing and packaging process in the same place than a small one that makes its products in one state before packaging and shipping them in another, then distributing. Safe to say a can of Coke is a more local product in terms of environmental impact than these micro spirits.
 
ThatllDoCy said:
This is just trying to meet demand. Standard operating procedure in US food industry. Make great product, grow, outsource great product to maximize profit or sell to someone who will.
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Agree to an extent but if a product has demand mostly because of where it was made and the story of the recipe, and it was never made there or that way in the first place...that's being sold. Now if something really is hand crafted locally the way it's being marketed and demand blows up, I don't see dishonesty in outsourcing that way, only if they say something like 'each batch is hand crafted at our facility in Podunk Idaho'.
 
CyinCo said:
Well known by those who drink it. Does it really matter where it is distilled? Aren't you looking for quality, flavor, uniqueness, etc.?

If you want a true Iowa product, try Cedar Ridge Bourbon. Good stuff as well. 100% Iowa.
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I'd always assumed Cedar Ridge had a setup like the one from that article. Nice to know they make their own. Their bourbon is great but so is their rum.
 
There is always still the bootleg Templeton if you've got a connection. I've got a bottle and it is good stuff.
 
notengonacho1 said:
A list of distilleries big and small
http://recenteats.blogspot.com/p/the-complete-list-of-american-whiskey.html
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Iowa (Distilleries by State)

Broadbent Distillery , Norwalk, IA. Makers of Two Jay's Iowa Corn Whiskey.

Cedar Ridge Distillery, Swisher, IA. This winery makes Iowa Bourbon, Reserve Bourbon, Griff's Cowboy Whiskey, Short's Whiskey, a wheat whiskey, a malt whiskey and a white whiskey. They are aging a rye malt whiskey

Dehner Distillery, Clive, IA. This distillery is working on Red Boot Corn Whiskey and a whiskey and bourbon under the label Swell.

Iowa Distilling Co. (Dunkel Corp.), Cumming, IA. This distillery makes Iowa Shine corn whiskey and Country Gal corn whiskey and is working on PB Bourbon.

Mississippi River Distilling Co., Le Claire, IA. This Iowa distillery makes Cody Road Bourbon, a wheated bourbon, Windmill Rye and is working on Farmer Brown Whiskey, a malt whiskey, McAlister Shotz Bourbon and 189 Reserve Bourbon.

Werner Distilling, Hostein, IA. This distillery is planning to make Holstein Bourbon.
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