Tech remembers, but does it matter?
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If CPR lost 3 straight years to Kansas there would be a lot of Cyclone fans calling for his job or at minimum for him to be on the hot seat. Yet, KU is a lot closer to ISU historically than Tech is to ISU in Big 12 play.
Conference Record 1996-2011
Conference Record 1996-2011
I'm starting to believe that Tech fans have collectively decided that history didn't begin until 2007/2008. Maybe you remember back to 2000 if you're a real old timer.
Fixed that for ya.
Here's the deal. I don't think your percieved talent advantage is that great. ISU and TTu go after a lot of the same players. You have brought in some highly rated prospects but if those guys don't play like 4 stars (or aren't playing yet) it doesn't really make you that much better.
You are acting like TTU is a 9 win team and has lost games to lowly ISU every year when in fact TTU has been hovering around .500 just like ISU.
Tubs is on the hot seat not just for losing to ISU but for peeing down his leg and losing 5 straight to end last year.
Doesn't mean a whole lot at the major college level. Your kick coverage team can come out with smoke billowing out of their ears but once play begins revenge rarely is a good frame of mind in a football game. Revenge doesn't put you in the right pass coverage, blocking scheme, etc. I hope their emotion is revenge. The flip side of that is remembering can also equate to hyper-focus and preparation leading up to a game that translate during the game. That I hope they do not have.
I'm convinced TTadvisor is secretly a Hawk fan. He uses history when it is convinient for his arguement. We are the much better program in the distant past yadda yadda yadda, but forget that past that span of years they were **** poor also
But spin the history arguement however you want.
Bottom line is that TT along with Iowa now have lost to us the last two times, and we are currently (hopefully we'll prove again on Saturday) the better program than you.
And I tend to care about recent sucsess, the present, and the future rather than living in the distant past, but to each their own
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First of all there would be a lot of ISU fans who would be looking at the overall record and overall conference record of the coach rather than how he did against Kansas.
Second of all, the ISU fans who had an ounce of class and who did feel that losses to KU were unacceptable and put said ISU coach on the hotseat would not be crowing about it on a Kansas board.
Up until last year Texas Tech had 20 straight years without a losing record. I hardly call that hovering around .500 Last year was a disaster across the board. If Tuberville starts out this year by losing to the media picked 8th/9th best team in the conference he's going to be on the hot seat. That's not arrogance, that's not disrespect to Iowa State, that's just the reality of the situation. That's why Tuberville is proclaiming this to be a very important game, he badly needs this win at this point in his Tech career.
Then I, for one, will think it's a real shame when we get that guy fired this week.
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Has Tubberville been there for 20 seasons already? No. Does what happened before TT came to TT matter? Not that much when it relates to the current team. In Tubs' first two seasons at TTU he was... drumroll... 13-12. Is that right around .500?
Losing to ISU isn't why Tubs is supposedly on the hot seat. Losing the games we lost last year, in the fashion we lost them, is why people are saying he's on the hot seat. Tech wasn't close in any of the last 5 games, with the exception of Mizzou.
Getting absolutely humiliated in front of your own home crowd by ISU, OSU, and BU on a neutral field, but in front of your alumni base, and getting destroyed by an average UT team on the road, is why people think he should be on the hot seat...not because of 2 straight losses to ISU.
Besides, Leach left this program with no defense, and a lack of depth. Tubs is trying to get it back, and he should have longer than 3 years to do that.
Getting absolutely humiliated in front of your own home crowd by ISU, OSU, and BU on a neutral field, but in front of your alumni base, and getting destroyed by an average UT team on the road, is why people think he should be on the hot seat...not because of 2 straight losses to ISU.
Besides, Leach left this program with no defense, and a lack of depth. Tubs is trying to get it back, and he should have longer than 3 years to do that.
TTUadvisor, this is what I mean. If there are expectations for wins the overall record adds up to the hot seat. Saying losing to ISU three years in a row puts him on the hotseat is arrogance.
I really didn't think raiderbacker would get this and you wouldn't.
cool:I never said solely losing 3 straight to ISU would put him on the hot seat, but the culmination of everything else that's happened and then starting out 2012 with a loss to the 8th/9th best team(according to the media) would place him firmly in the hot seat. If you can't beat the 8th/9th best team then the outlook for your season looks pretty grim.
It just so happens that ISU has been that 8th/9th best team. Therefore, the culmination of everything that has happened, with 3 straight losses to ISU(the 8th/9th best team) will all result in Tuberville being on the hot seat. Although, that's not to say he couldn't still turn the season around, but you would think it would spiral down.
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^^^^Exactly. If that is what you mean then say it. "Any Texas Tech coach" says to me regardless of what else is happening so, yes, you did say just losing thrice to ISU puts them on the hot seat.
EDIT: I agree that how the Tech experience has gone for Tubs coupled with another loss to ISU Saturday puts him on the hot seat. Frankly, I think he started the season there.
EDIT: I agree that how the Tech experience has gone for Tubs coupled with another loss to ISU Saturday puts him on the hot seat. Frankly, I think he started the season there.
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Yeah, I can definitely see how my original post in this thread reads poorly now. I was implying with the circumstances that Tuberville is in, but I didn't say that. My apologies, poorly worded on my behalf.
