Exactly...I guess not knowing the ******* rule book would be detrimental to making the correct call on the field. Un****ingbelievable, this **** has to end.
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Exactly...I guess not knowing the ******* rule book would be detrimental to making the correct call on the field. Un****ingbelievable, this **** has to end.
SOOOOO let me get this right?
If a bad call is made...and lets be nice by calling it a bad call, we could say that several calls were "Made Up"..but for the sake of argument lets say it was a blown call...that has no effect on the game?
Baylor fumbled 2ce, they actually didn't score once in the 1st quarter....RG3 "Tucks" the ball...which isn't a rule in college football....and fumbles inside the Red zone....we recover. Okay he was in the motion of throwing....but wait he wasn't outside the tackle box and no RB or WR was around.....that would be intentional grounding which is a 10 yard penalty and a loss of down making it 4th down and I believe 19 outside the Red Zone. But NEITHER of these were called....next play TD Baylor....they never fumbled again, they never were behind again.....the Refs took momentum from ISU's D and GAVE it to Baylors O...its called stealing...it effects more than just that touchdown...
when you have a problem fumbling its just as much physical as mental...and when they weren't scoring and were fumbling it was getting in their heads..it COULD HAVE changed the course of the game from a third loss of the ball.
The offsides call on the onside kick is the same theory...behind at that time by two touchdowns, we just had scored, we get the ball back and lets say for arguments sake we score another touchdown with say 5 minutes remaining....down only one score puts added pressure on their offense to produce, there defense isnt up by three scores, they are only up by 8, they lost to KSU and almost to TCU by blowing late 4th quarter leads, this starts creeping up in the back of their minds.....it could have TOTALLY WENT A DIFFERENT ROUTE...but we will never know cuz the Refs blew CALL AFTER CALL.
Dont tell me that you are 100% sure the officiating didn't cost us this game.
If a bad call is made...and lets be nice by calling it a bad call, we could say that several calls were "Made Up"..but for the sake of argument lets say it was a blown call...that has no effect on the game?
Baylor fumbled 2ce, they actually didn't score once in the 1st quarter....RG3 "Tucks" the ball...which isn't a rule in college football....and fumbles inside the Red zone....we recover. Okay he was in the motion of throwing....but wait he wasn't outside the tackle box and no RB or WR was around.....that would be intentional grounding which is a 10 yard penalty and a loss of down making it 4th down and I believe 19 outside the Red Zone. But NEITHER of these were called....next play TD Baylor....they never fumbled again, they never were behind again.....the Refs took momentum from ISU's D and GAVE it to Baylors O...its called stealing...it effects more than just that touchdown...
when you have a problem fumbling its just as much physical as mental...and when they weren't scoring and were fumbling it was getting in their heads..it COULD HAVE changed the course of the game from a third loss of the ball.
The offsides call on the onside kick is the same theory...behind at that time by two touchdowns, we just had scored, we get the ball back and lets say for arguments sake we score another touchdown with say 5 minutes remaining....down only one score puts added pressure on their offense to produce, there defense isnt up by three scores, they are only up by 8, they lost to KSU and almost to TCU by blowing late 4th quarter leads, this starts creeping up in the back of their minds.....it could have TOTALLY WENT A DIFFERENT ROUTE...but we will never know cuz the Refs blew CALL AFTER CALL.
Dont tell me that you are 100% sure the officiating didn't cost us this game.
Of course the official is going to say that.
It'd be different if somebody sat down with him and watched it again on film with the rule book in front of him. He would then say, "no comment", walk out of the room and try to pull his head outta his ***.
Here is the deal. You and I both know he wasn't attempting to throw the ball, and therefore, it can't be an incomplete pass. That was a bogus ruling even the Baylor fans know that was a gift.
I saw his hand moving forward, and him clearly choosing NOT to throw a pass by continuing his motion back toward his body.
Then I saw his hand moving down, and the ball falling out of his hand as it moved toward the ground.
RGIII thought it was a fumble. He was spazzing out trying to get the ball as ISU got the ball. Maybe he chases down all his incompletions like a madman since he only averages 3 of them a game.
No it didn't, if it came out of his hand during the throwing motion, the ball would have went forwards. It "slipped" out of his hand when the motion was completed at the bottom, which is why the ball went straight down to the ground.
I'm not sure officials cost ISU the game or if ISU could have possibly won. In fact I don't think they would have.
I am 1000000% sure that the officials caused the game to be slanted toward Baylor with numerous blown calls that all went Baylor's way. The game was closer than the score, the reason for that was poor, one-sided officiating. That's plain as day.
Even a Baylor fan would have to admit poor calls changed possession twice when it shouldn't have.
Exactly...until people start losing there jobs **** isn't going to change. When you suck at your job you should be held accountable, that's the case in every other profession. But for some reason these guys are untouchable.
ISU could put together a tape now, of 3-4 calls on the field in just 3 B12 officiated games, that had no good evidence to overturn, that were all overturned to our detriment. That and this new offsides call blown by 3 full yards should be enough to get something done.
It was clear that momentum was stolen in both cases...Baylor has issues with close games in the fourth quarter...see KSU and TCU games earlier in the year. Baylor hasn't shown it can play with real pressure towards the END of games...that's what ISU does do well usually, they grind it out and hopefully the game is close in the fourth quarter to try and steal an upset...it was taken from them twice..it swung the game from one score down to a one score lead for Baylor.
The Refs opened the door....Baylor just kicked it open....but before the Bogus "Tuck" call the door wasn't even unlocked...it was blatant and someone's job needs to go bye bye...its a ****ing recession, I'm sure someone could use a job right about now.
The Refs opened the door....Baylor just kicked it open....but before the Bogus "Tuck" call the door wasn't even unlocked...it was blatant and someone's job needs to go bye bye...its a ****ing recession, I'm sure someone could use a job right about now.
I think part of the reason these refs are untouchable is because of that rule where coaches automatically get a fine for calling out bad officiating. I think it is time that was lifted. I understand why it was put in place, but man officiating sure has taken a turn for the worst since then. There should be no reason coaches can't call out the refs when appropriate...they are on the field and in the booths too. Hell...fine the coaches if it turns out they were wrong.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuCqE8tMfEs&feature=related]Coach Mangino no like Ut and their refs - YouTube[/ame]
I never ever thought I would say this...
Mangino is right. AHH!
I'll be okay.....I will be okay. :embarrassed:
Mangino is right. AHH!
I'll be okay.....I will be okay. :embarrassed:
This is an honest question as I really don't know the correct answer...
For the "tuck." If it was called an incomplete pass, shouldn't it have automatically then been grounding? Can they not call a penalty on a review? How does that work?
For the "tuck." If it was called an incomplete pass, shouldn't it have automatically then been grounding? Can they not call a penalty on a review? How does that work?
I saw a fairly blatant hold by us on White's TD run. Must have been KO (or maybe a TE) was pulling the DE down and out of the play.
Pretty good no-call for us I guess.