Speed cameras in NE IA

[Gorm]

$70 or hiring a good lawyer ... Seems like $70 is a better investment with a 100% guarantee success rate

Some people like to make decisions with their wallets. Others like to make decisions on their principles.

Do you really think creditors want an Iowa Court setting new legal percent on how they operate in the state of Iowa? - A challenge would likely be settled long before it came to that.

To be clear, I continue to refer to the automated "parking ticket" variety of traffic fine with this argument. If you got pulled over by a trooper and didn't pay that fine, that is a 100% different situation and the state WILL issue that judgement.

 

[VeloClone]

Some people like to make decisions with their wallets. Others like to make decisions on their principles.

Do you really think creditors want an Iowa Court setting new legal percent on how they operate in the state of Iowa? - A challenge would likely be settled long before it came to that.

To be clear, I continue to refer to the automated "parking ticket" variety of traffic fine with this argument. If you got pulled over by a trooper and didn't pay that fine, that is a 100% different situation and the state WILL issue that judgement.

Yeah, my principles say if I am going to speed (and I often do) that what is right is for me to pay the fine for breaking the law.

 

[Urbandale2013]

I don't think it causes those issues. I drive that stretch of road all the time. You have to be going 10 over to get a ticket which accommodates the general flow of traffic in that area. It pretty much only impacts those that are driving 15 over and weaving in and out if traffic.

I drive that stretch everyday now that there is less traffic. I used to go around on the east side because of the backup that it caused. Currently the flow of traffic is 75-65 on 235. Some days you get someone camping in the left lane that it slows down but generally the flow is around that speed.

You can see the speed up happen especially after the speed lowers to 55. At that point the flow of traffic can be from 75-55.

I’ve never gotten a ticket from one of these. Heck I’ve never been pulled over but these do not make it safer.

 

[3TrueFans]

Some people like to make decisions with their wallets. Others like to make decisions on their principles.

Do you really think creditors want an Iowa Court setting new legal percent on how they operate in the state of Iowa? - A challenge would likely be settled long before it came to that.

To be clear, I continue to refer to the automated "parking ticket" variety of traffic fine with this argument. If you got pulled over by a trooper and didn't pay that fine, that is a 100% different situation and the state WILL issue that judgement.

If you were actually speeding it's not principle, it's just trying to avoid consequences.

 

[MisterO]

This is a bad idea. That will cost way more than the ticket in the long run.

That’s the idea…if it’s sooooo important, put a cop on it and enforce the rule. Otherwise- it’s just a cheap money grab. It’s shameful.

 

[Gorm]

Yeah, my principles say if I am going to speed (and I often do) that what is right is for me to pay the fine for breaking the law.

If you were actually speeding it's not principle, it's just trying to avoid consequences.

Cool. I agree.

When someone you loaned your car to drove 100 mph through one of these cameras and they send the ticket to you, do you still pay the ticket? - Automated tickets are issued by plate, not by driver.

 

[dmclone]

Before WFH, I use to take 235 every day for work. The only ticket I ever got by these cameras was on a weekend, when I wasn't alone in the car, and I wasn't paying attention to my speed.

With my current set-up, I'm warned by multiple systems before I encounter a speed camera. My radar detector will alert me if one is around and I'm exceeding, my cars GPS, and I believe Google Maps or Waze also warn me. It's a tad bit obnoxious.

 

[3TrueFans]

Cool.

When someone you loaned your car to drove 100 mph through one of these cameras and they send the ticket to you, what do you still pay the ticket? - Automated tickets are issued by plate, not by driver.

Or what if someone stole your license plate, then went and sped past the camera, and then put the plate back on your car!

 

[Gorm]

Or what if someone stole your license plate, then went and sped past the camera, and then put the plate back on your car!

Glad we agreed.

 

[MisterO]

Don't pay it. In the state of Iowa they cannot report it to a credit agency, and you can tell anyone who calls you to go F themselves because they have zero legal footing to support them.

Almost all of these cameras are provided by service companies who own and operate them for the city / county. Their contract says the company will will get XX% of whatever ticket their equipment issues, even if the ticketed person DOESN'T PAY.

If everyone collectively stopped paying those tickets, the county / police will continue to have to pay the company their share of the tickets issued.

This concept isn't unprecedented.

I like your post- my only question though is whether the ticket will become a warrant? If so, be careful not paying it.

 

[VeloClone]

Cool. I agree.

When someone you loaned your car to drove 100 mph through one of these cameras and they send the ticket to you, do you still pay the ticket? - Automated tickets are issued by plate, not by driver.

I think I am already careful to whom I loan my car. If they are taking my car at 100 mph I will be hitting them up to pay the fine and will not be loaning them my car again. If you are loaning your car to someone you don't know is responsible with your car that sounds like a bigger problem.

 

[Gorm]

Or what if someone stole your license plate, then went and sped past the camera, and then put the plate back on your car!

Cedar Rapids reports cases of speed camera citations issued by mistake

Automated traffic cameras along Interstate 380 issued nearly 6,000 citations in the first four days of operation. The city of Cedar Rapids said some of those tickets may have been issued by mistake and more are likely to come.

www.kcrg.com

Given that they know the car with the plate. Something tells me a stole plate would invite the police to your door pretty quickly.

 

[3TrueFans]

Cedar Rapids reports cases of speed camera citations issued by mistake

Automated traffic cameras along Interstate 380 issued nearly 6,000 citations in the first four days of operation. The city of Cedar Rapids said some of those tickets may have been issued by mistake and more are likely to come.

www.kcrg.com

Given that they know the car with the plate. Something tells me a stole plate would invite the police to your door pretty quickly.

Your plate being stolen is different than if you actually know you were speeding. If you know you were speeding and you get caught you should pay the fine rather than being a ***** about it. If your plate got stolen you should report it and fight the ticket. This isn't hard.

 

[Gorm]

I like your post- my only question though is whether the ticket will become a warrant? If so, be careful not paying it.

Automated ticketing systems in the state of Iowa are glorified parking tickets. Traffic law enforcement via photography by Iowa law enforcemnet is illegal under the Iowa Constitution. No judge is going to sign off on a warrant to arrest you for non-payment. This is also why there are no court dates mentioned in your ticket "summons."

 

[3TrueFans]

Automated ticketing systems in the state of Iowa are glorified parking tickets. Traffic law enforcement by Iowa police is illegal under the Iowa Constitution. No judge is going to sign off on a warrant to arrest you for non-payment. This is also why there are no court dates mentioned in your ticket "summons."

If you park illegally and get caught you should also pay the fine, if it's a mistake or you didn't do anything wrong then you should also fight it if you so choose.

 

[VeloClone]

Your plate being stolen is different than if you actually know you were speeding. If you know you were speeding and you get caught you should pay the fine rather than being a ***** about it. If your plate got stolen you should report it and fight the ticket. This isn't hard.

This goes against some people's principles. If a human didn't directly see them do it, it isn't wrong.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

If you were actually speeding it's not principle, it's just trying to avoid consequences.

What if one of my principles is that I REALLY don't like consequences?

 

[VeloClone]

What if one of my principles is that I REALLY don't like consequences?

Then go work for Kirk Ferentz.

 

[Gorm]

Your plate being stolen is different than if you actually know you were speeding.

If you park illegally and get caught you should also pay the fine, if it's a mistake or you didn't do anything wrong then you should also fight it if you so choose.

Agreed.

If you know you were speeding and you get caught you should pay the fine rather than being a ***** about it. If your plate got stolen you should report it and fight the ticket. This isn't hard.

Personally, I would agree. I'm sure others will have a different take on this though. Its a personal judgement. I'm not going to tell someone else that their personal judgement is wrong. Even if it is against something I believe.

If people want to fight to not pay a ticket for something they did, more power to them as long as that fight stays with legal means. The same legal recourse is available to those who had their plates stolen.

 

[cytor]

Ok, I don't know Iowa laws (don't live there) but if a person gets a citation and you don't pay it, won't that eventually lead to a warrant for your arrest? Up here in Minny, you definitely will have a warrant on you for failing to pay a ticket.
Perhaps it's different if a ticket is mailed to you vs a ticket that is handed to you by a live traffic stop?