Speed camera

This is the least surprising thing ever.

I lost my way thinking I could get back on 20 without having to back track one time about 30 years ago. I ended up in a "neighborhood" in the river valley. I had a kid trying to swing a big stick at my car as I drove by.

I definitely heard banjos.

The flats were tough back then
 
Who cares if they are. It costs a lot of money to run a city, and that money comes mostly from taxes. If you can make some money off those who drive excessively fast, and in turn make my property taxes not increase as fast, I'm all for it.
That's a pretty selfish approach.
 
Cedar Rapids was forced to stop ticketing for 2 years due to lawsuits. What was interesting is they still monitored the speed. The results...speeds went up during the time everyone knew they would not get a ticket BUT actual traffic related accidents declined. Once they started issuing tickets again, speeds declined and traffic accidents increased. Hmmmm....
 
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Cedar Rapids was forced to stop ticketing for 2 years due to lawsuits. What was interesting is they still monitored the speed. The results...speeds went up during the time everyone knew they would not get a ticket BUT actual traffic related accidents declined. Once they started issuing tickets again, speeds declined and traffic accidents increased. Hmmmm....

Drivers being inconsistent with their speed creates others to have to do the same which creates collisions. You likely had people get used to speeding, and then couldn't handle it when others slowed down for the conditions etc.

I'm all for human darwinism so if someone wants to develop the habits of having to save 5-10 minutes (speeding doesn't cut travel time by much at all unless it's hundreds of miles and only creates faster wear and tear and fuel consumption on the vehicle) and take themselves out by going off the freeway when the conditions change, so be it as long as their behavior doesn't injure or kill anyone else.
 
This is the least surprising thing ever.

I lost my way thinking I could get back on 20 without having to back track one time about 30 years ago. I ended up in a "neighborhood" in the river valley. I had a kid trying to swing a big stick at my car as I drove by.

I definitely heard banjos.
Lehigh?
 
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Cedar Rapids was forced to stop ticketing for 2 years due to lawsuits. What was interesting is they still monitored the speed. The results...speeds went up during the time everyone knew they would not get a ticket BUT actual traffic related accidents declined. Once they started issuing tickets again, speeds declined and traffic accidents increased. Hmmmm....
It has never been about safety. Almost nothing is.
 
everyone speeds, most all of the time. So naturally those that follow the sign to the letter of the law can increase the dangers on the road. I would say most people travel 5-7 over the speed limit in most zones.
I think that we as a society generally agree it is acceptable to speed to a certain degree. However, as someone who speeds most of the time, I disagree that everyone speeds because I get stuck behind them ALL THE ******* TIME.
 
I think that we as a society generally agree it is acceptable to speed to a certain degree. However, as someone who speeds most of the time, I disagree that everyone speeds because I get stuck behind them ALL THE ******* TIME.
I don’t agree. The only reason I speed on occasion is because I’m going to get run off of the road by everyone around me going 10-20mph over and weaving in and out of traffic like it’s a videogame, usually with no signals.

The whole argument with speed cameras and the like is this: people who break the law don’t like having consequences. Enough people have decided they think laws to regulate how fast they drive shouldn’t be laws, so they just ignore it and say “screw you” to everyone else on the road. And the critical mass of people following the law is crushed by people who are reckless, so the city or county eventually gets exhausted of all the ridiculous lawsuits by people who are never going to change their behavior and takes the cameras down.

I’d like to see these cameras pretty much everywhere, and also add citations for following distance at high speeds and unsafe merges. When I get to a place of general safety between me and the car in front and then someone else merges in front of me and just about hits my front bumper, that person should be getting pulled over. Bumper to bumper traffic at 70-75mph is incredibly unsafe. The state of driving on all roads, especially the interstates, is absolutely terrible. Driving 100 miles roundtrip to commute to work, I see it daily. We have a ton of menaces out there. It’s too much to be policed by people. I would like to see the standard for who can get and keep a driver’s license be raised by a ton, but again, there are too many people who are terrible drivers unwilling to change, so it would create some sort of national riot if they ever had any consequences for endangering those around them. So those of us trying to just get through the day end up compromising and playing reactive driver to the 75-80% that are just gonna do whatever they want, no care about anyone else.
 
I feel like this can be a money grab, but also hilarious that people get more than one of these in their life. Basically definition of an idiot tax.
Yep…I’ve never gotten one. Total of one speeding ticket ever, given by a real person, about 15 years ago for going 5 over on I-80 in western Iowa. No warning. Middle of the day on a weekday, officer must have been bored. Was on my way to a job interview, thankfully I built in some extra time so still wasn’t late. I paid it and moved on.
 
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