We led K-State in the second half. We were tied with OSU late in the 4th. Neither of those are getting run out of the building
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Dude you said something petty and stupid. Just own it an move on.
the best thing you could do is start your own website about firing prohm. That’s how this site started. And you could go and meltdown on your own space
Good to see you're still at it providing absolutely wonderful insight.
Hard to read anything beyond where you labeled Haliburton as "he should be valued support player on a great team". He played on a great team representing Team USA as it won a gold medal last summer. He was not a support player on that great team, he was named to the 5-person international all-tournament team.
We're almost certainly far more in agreement about Prohm than we are in disagreement. So it's weird how dug in you are about attributing this thing to me that I didn't say in order to knock down the very mild criticism I actually did offer.
But I understand you need full compliance, so do what you gotta do.
I don’t need compliance. Never have. There are plenty of real reasons to be critical of prohm and his staff.
No need to make one up.
No point in belaboring this. We all want the same thing, to forget last night ever happened and right the ship. I'd prefer to focus on that. Cheers.
Come out firing and make the first four 3s. Makes a huge difference when they go in.
While I have concerns after last night, it was nice to see a sober tweet like this one. And why I hope the team can bounce back.
To provide context\a little cold water to those points though:
-That KU team was the worst KU team in a decade+
-We won the big 12 tournament by playing the #2 seed without a key player, and got to avoid the #1 seed because they somehow had a huge upset in the first round. It was a hell of a fun trip, but it was a bit fluky.
-We promptly lost in the first round
- We've recruited well by rankings under prohm, many analysts thought we were the most talented team in the big 12 last year. Talent doesnt necessarily mean results
- That top 25 win came after they lost a player that put up 18 on us in the first go-around.
Hard to argue with your points, but sports can be fluky sometimes. Sometimes players get injured, sometimes you get favorable draws, and so on. We took advantage of those and had some nice moments as a result.
I've said I'm extremely disappointed in last night, but the point is we've had some good things happen recently for our current and future players to point back to, if we want to get back on the right trajectory.
We can only beat who we beat. We can't control who they have or don't have. Getting deep in a tourney usually has some luck on who you can avoid, who is hurt, who gets upset. And if winning on the road more teams would do it.
We got shellacked last night - why create more sketchy arguments from last year why we sucked our way to a tourney title, big wins, etc...?
You can argue about freedom on offense vs running set plays, but the simple fact is that on Kenpom Iowa State's offense is still ranked 34th in the country while also being 285th in three point shooting. No, you can't rely on consistency of made shots, but you can also look and see an offense that is still pretty good despite not making shots. If they were even average shooting threes (which I still think they can be), it probably would be a top 20 offense. It's difficult for me to look at Prohm's offense and say he needs to change it when the overall results actually look pretty good.
Because you have to look at things as a whole. What i posted, by itself? That'd be a pretty negative view of the season. What that tweet posted? Would be an overly rosy view of how things were. You have to view the good and the bad in context.
According to CW we cant keep losing inside Hilton Coliseum this season, If our shooting/offense and defense doesnt improve dramatically...well.... look forward to more beat downs from KU and BU ....Inside Hilton and esp on the road.
CSP said in his presser that they worked on their Zone Offense for 3 straight days leading up to the Hok Game....