Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor
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Yep, it's so easy to win a bowl game that we've only done it three times EVER, including once by our current coach. I don't care how many bowls there are now. Until we can go to bowls and win them with regularity, winning a bowl game is still a major accomplishment.
I think a Gopher fan is just looking for someone else to pick on after their debacle after a season.
Yet the real question is are we getting material we can work with to better ourselves. We heard several of new players would work out great and here we sit with a 500 yard offensive differential game. Hey, we need one damn fine qb to run this offense - several minor schools have one. We need one.
What This Year Has Proven
We're not close to a top 10 team- we've been blow out by Iowa, Utah & Oklahoma.
We are a mediocre team as evidenced by wins over NIU, TT and the loss to KSU. IMO if the KSU game was in Ames - we win.
We probably don't have much of a chance against Texas & Nebraska. But I'd be disappointed if we don't beat KU and be close against CU & Mizzou.
I don't know what next year holds. It could be ugly if some of Rhoad's recruits aren't ready to be solid Big 12 players. That said, other than maybe Sims- there isn't a graduating player that is All Big 12 caliber and can't be replaced.
We're not close to a top 10 team- we've been blow out by Iowa, Utah & Oklahoma.
We are a mediocre team as evidenced by wins over NIU, TT and the loss to KSU. IMO if the KSU game was in Ames - we win.
We probably don't have much of a chance against Texas & Nebraska. But I'd be disappointed if we don't beat KU and be close against CU & Mizzou.
I don't know what next year holds. It could be ugly if some of Rhoad's recruits aren't ready to be solid Big 12 players. That said, other than maybe Sims- there isn't a graduating player that is All Big 12 caliber and can't be replaced.
He's a total idiot to mention next year as a tougher schedule. You can pretty much ignore his opinion on Big 12 football if he's that clueless.
This year:
Utah
Nebraska
@Iowa
@Texas
@OU
Next year:
No Utah
No Nebraska
Iowa at home
Texas at home
Still @OU
That is a SUBSTANTIALLY easier schedule.
It'll still be a tough schedule next year, it's top 5 in FBS this year.
This year:
Utah
Nebraska
@Iowa
@Texas
@OU
Next year:
No Utah
No Nebraska
Iowa at home
Texas at home
Still @OU
That is a SUBSTANTIALLY easier schedule.
It'll still be a tough schedule next year, it's top 5 in FBS this year.
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With all the talk about bowl games, my only thing is, that extra couple of hundred thousand dollars we got for going sure didn't help. I think some of you forget how much the athletic department gets for going to a bowl game, regardless of how crappy or stupidly named it is.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Last years team didn't deserve to go to a bowl and neither did our opponent.
You're looking at our entire history of bowl wins and counting last year, which until recently, would never have happened because average or worse teams didn't get to go to bowls.
Historically speaking, last years bowl should not be on equal footing as those we went to prior, when bowls meant something.
It's a watered down mess, now, where 1/2 or over 1/2 the teams get to go.
It's just like Iowa bragging about a 10 win season...yes, technically it's a 10 win season, but you now play 12 regular season games. New Years bowls are another thing that no longer mean anything, yet if we ever make it to on, even a sucky one, look for every person on here to have it in their sig.
I think Danny Mac coined the phrase "Bowl Championship", to make it sound as though it actually meant something. It doesn't, anymore.
Bowls not being worthwhile is a stupid argument. Sure nobody outside of the alumni cares about a crappy bowl, but so what?
Besides, an extra month of practice cannot be overstated. If a team goes bowling every year, the seniors will have had an extra three or four months of practice going into their last season, that's almost an entire extra season of practices. That is a huge motivator to make it to even the lowest of low tier bowls.
Besides, an extra month of practice cannot be overstated. If a team goes bowling every year, the seniors will have had an extra three or four months of practice going into their last season, that's almost an entire extra season of practices. That is a huge motivator to make it to even the lowest of low tier bowls.
If you would have put a more reasonable monetary amount instead of "all the worlds money", then I would think you were someone different. With your silly statement, you fall into the group of "someone posting on CF asserting some fact that wasn't actually correct".
By the way, you should have said "world's" instead of "worlds".
If I had a nickel for the erroneous statements that you made, I could make a phone call in 1984.
I agree with that. Mac's last year of recruits were mostly duds. We have about 4 starters right now from that group, and Chizik's first recruiting class was about half jucos, and another half of finding whoever we could find that wasn't already committed somewhere else.
ISU will never have the recruiting to win with a bunch of 1st and 2nd year players. We need to have lots of Jr's and Sr's playing. Unfortunately, Mac's last class is our 5th year seniors right now, and the few left from Chizik's first class are the RS Jr/Sr's this year.
So, it's going to take a little bit of time. Give these coaches a break. I want to win now too, but just like at the beginning of the year, I think we will go 5-7.
Bullsh%t. What do the lower level bowl games hurt? How can you actually complain about MORE football to watch? And even if no one watches a game on the NFL Network between two 6-6 teams, tell me that the 20k ISU fans in attendance didn't care. If you don't like watching the crap bowls, don't watch them. Don't turn on ESPN until January 1. For me, I'd watch Nevada vs South Florida on December 21st...and probably put some money on it to make it more interesting.
You know, I wouldn't say that a bowl game equals success. BUT, when you just got done with 5 wins in two seasons, I'd say 6-6 is pretty damn successful. McCarney was on the way to getting fired for going 6-6/7-5 every year. It's all about perspective.
BTW, I do agree that non-bowl teams deserve the extra month of developmental practices. That's an unfair advantage that the NCAA needs to fix.
More football is definitely a good thing. I would be 100% in favor of a 13th (or 14th) regular season game. But having THIRTY FIVE bowl games just simply waters down what it means to be in a bowl game. It's almost like the NCAA is giving out ribbons for participation, like kids in grade school get to support their self-esteem. This is America, dammit! We should not be rewarding mediocrity. You should have to do more than schedule 4 non-conference patsies and then go 2-6 in your conference to get to take a victory lap at the end of the season.
Receiving the honor and benefits of playing a post-season game should only go to the teams who rise above and beyond and distinguish themselves from the others. 6-6 doesn't do that for me. That's mediocrity, not excellence.
Now, I do not at all fault schools who accept bowl bids at 6-6. If they are offered, by all means accept! You'd have to be crazy to turn down a bowl bid. As the system works today, if you are bowl eligible under the rules and a bowl offers a spot, why then I guess you have technically earned your reward and you should grab it with both hands.
I am not saying that 6-6 teams shouldn't accept bowl bids. I am saying that 6-6 shouldn't be able to be offered bowl bids.
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I dare you to take "that line" on over to CPR's Office and tell him/coaches/players that Bowl game didn't mean anything. Easy for you to take cheap shots at the Cyclones and the team on the internet but why don't you be a man about it and tell CPR to his face.
Or at a Vikings game. They played a quick game with pee-wee kids vs mascots today and Herky and the two mascots from a hospital/clinic got more cheers than Goldy.
That was my reaction too. That has happened at the last two games I have gone to in the Dome. This year vs Dallas and last year vs Seattle, they had the same pee-wee game last year with the mascots.