Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

Going to a bowl or beating a bowl team cannot be compared to different time-frames since every team in America now goes to a bowl.

Going to a bowl now means nothing. Beating a bowl team now means nothing. Winning a bowl means very little and next to nothing.

The NCAA has cheapened their product or at least cheapened the bowl accomplishment by allowing so many teams to go to a bowl.

We did not deserve to go to a bowl last year and Minnesota sure as hell didn't.

This years team is not a bowl team. We've beaten 3 bad teams and could beat 3 more bad teams.

That should not get you into a bowl.

Another idiotic post from someone who thinks ISU should be made to suffer. ISU deserves to go to a bowl if they're invited. Period.

Why don't you go find another team to b**** about. You're a ****ing broken record.
 
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So basically the only team that should go to a bowl are the top tqo in college?? Who gives a rat's *** who goes to a bowl game?? If a bowl game can help, IN ANY WAY, I'm damn glad and thankful we have the opportunity to participate. The alternative?.. we have an above average season, get to stay home, which is the same result as an average season. Why the hell do people care if lots of teams go to a bowl game?? It's not like they let ISU play in a BCS bowl game and left out TCU last years.

We have different definitions of average.

Maybe I'm a traditionalist who thinks a bowl team should be an above average team. You don't have to be anywhere close to above average to go to a bowl, now, and it's getting worse every year.

All historical context of success/failure are gone with regard to bowl games. They mean next to nothing now.

Todays bowl games are nothing more than a participant ribbon, which seems to be the way of the world these days.

As far as the extra practice goes, the NCAA needs to fix this. The teams that NEED the extra practice are the ones who aren't playing in bowls. Every team should be able to practice the exact same number of times.
 
Another idiotic post from someone who thinks ISU should be made to suffer. ISU deserves to go to a bowl if they're invited. Period.

Why don't you go find another team to b**** about. You're a ****ing broken record.
Of course they deserve to go if invited. The debate is whether or not they deserve to be invited.

You'll eventually come around, as will the rest of the football world, to realize that these minor bowls are a scham and a bad thing for college football.

It might not be this year, but eventually, you'll see 1/4 full stadiums in these minor bowls.
 
Gopher fan reminds me why the minnie gopher fanbase is the WORST FANBASE IN THE COUNTRY...


If I were the gopher fanbase, I would hire Dan McCarney and you will be beating the iowa hoax er hoks er squawks in no time....Now that should make'em feel better!!
 
Of course they deserve to go if invited. The debate is whether or not they deserve to be invited.

You'll eventually come around, as will the rest of the football world, to realize that these minor bowls are a scham and a bad thing for college football.

It might not be this year, but eventually, you'll see 1/4 full stadiums in these minor bowls.

No debate; if they get invited they deserve to be invited. Bowls aren't run by pollsters or the NCAA.

In no way could they ever be construed as bad.
 
Of course they deserve to go if invited. The debate is whether or not they deserve to be invited.

You'll eventually come around, as will the rest of the football world, to realize that these minor bowls are a scham and a bad thing for college football.

It might not be this year, but eventually, you'll see 1/4 full stadiums in these minor bowls.

Then this situation will correct itself. No sponsor is going to pay for a bowl that can't fill more than 1/4 of the seats. I bet that many sponsors would be looking to bail if the attendance feel too far below sellout, so I doubt that we'd ever get down to 1/4 capacity.

I don't know if the excessive number of bowl games cheapens NCAA football, but it definitely over-saturates the market. Eventually the economics will catch up and the unsustainable bowls will disappear.
 
No debate; if they get invited they deserve to be invited. Bowls aren't run by pollsters or the NCAA.

In no way could they ever be construed as bad.

No bowl could possibly ever be a "bad bowl" from the team's perspective. The extra practices and added exposure (however much that may be) are absolutely critical.

From the fan's perspective, putting aside the benefits for your team, that may be a different story. How enthused are people going to be to spend their hard earned cash and precious vacation in places like Detroit, Boise, even NYC, in late December? Especially when you have been dreaming of escaping the snow and ice and heading south to a warm sandy beach some where?

As far as the team goes, there are no bad bowls. As far as the fans goes, not all bowls are created equally, to say the least.
 
tonight. He's also a cyclone fan, but he said somethings to me as we discussed the game and future. Obviously, he's had a bad run of things this year so he's a little jaded, but this stuff hurt me a little too:

1) Quit pointing to the Nebraska game. No one gets that lucky again. Eight turnovers and we barely won.

2) Going to bowl games doesn't mean crap. Minnesota goes to bowls because roughly half of the BCS teams go. It's not an accomplishment anymore to play in Memphis or New York city with a 6-6 record against some no-name team.

3) Texas Tech win showed nothing because Tech isn't good, and they dropped 10 passes along with the 3 turnovers

4) Look at next year...harder schedule to face with losing your best defensive player, your top three safeties, your best dlineman, your qb, rb, TE, and maybe 3 starting OL (I said I think the schedule is easier next yer)

5) Recruiting isn't going good when you're hoping three juco dlinemen are coming to save the day, and they have zero offers outside of ISU.

Ok, he's ******. Just like I'm ******. However, those comments hurt me. I'm not saying all (or maybe any) of what he said is true, but he convinced me enough to buy there's some truth in each of them...yuck.

How we need a huge upset next week to get emotions back to where they were after Tech.

You and your 'friend' need to simmer down.

If all of you are going to lose your **** because we got beat down by OKlahoma and Utah you are pretty darn stupid.

I am not sure why last nights loss is any worse than any of the dozens of blowouts we've had at Oklahoma. It's not like we have a history of competing in Norman. Senecca Wallace and his 9th ranked Cyclones were blown out in an even more embarrassing fashion in Norman, for god's sake.

And we have the TOUGHEST schedule in the nation this year. I doubt next year will be the same.

Get some perspective and calm the hell down.
 
Then this situation will correct itself. No sponsor is going to pay for a bowl that can't fill more than 1/4 of the seats. I bet that many sponsors would be looking to bail if the attendance feel too far below sellout, so I doubt that we'd ever get down to 1/4 capacity.

I don't know if the excessive number of bowl games cheapens NCAA football, but it definitely over-saturates the market. Eventually the economics will catch up and the unsustainable bowls will disappear.

I think the NCAA should change bowl eligibility to be that to qualify a team must be ABOVE .500, which would mean 7 wins. As much as that would hurt bowl chances, I don't believe in rewarding mediocrity. 6-6 is the definition of mediocrity. It is excellence that should be rewarded. There are WAY too many bowl games.
 
Why do people care how many bowls there are? Don't think the teams are worth watching...easy, don't watch or don't go. Don't plead for our program to get both it's legs tied up in addition to the two arms we already have to play with tied behind our back. Geez, some of you seem to want to give the most disadvantaged team in the BCS one more hurdle.
 
I think the NCAA should change bowl eligibility to be that to qualify a team must be ABOVE .500, which would mean 7 wins. As much as that would hurt bowl chances, I don't believe in rewarding mediocrity. 6-6 is the definition of mediocrity. It is excellence that should be rewarded. There are WAY too many bowl games.


Most BCS teams play 3 non-conference cupcakes, sometimes 4.

That means they need to win 1/2 of their conference games. I think that it should be the bare minimum to qualify for a bowl.

Maybe the overall record component should be thrown out, but you should have to be at least .500 in your conference.
 
Why do people care how many bowls there are? Don't think the teams are worth watching...easy, don't watch or don't go. Don't plead for our program to get both it's legs tied up in addition to the two arms we already have to play with tied behind our back. Geez, some of you seem to want to give the most disadvantaged team in the BCS one more hurdle.


You're using bowl games as a barometer of success...others, like myself, are saying that it doesn't equal success any longer.

BTW, I didn't know we were the most disadvantaged team in the BCS. Thanks for that. Poor us. Poor, poor us.
 
You're using bowl games as a barometer of success...others, like myself, are saying that it doesn't equal success any longer.

BTW, I didn't know we were the most disadvantaged team in the BCS. Thanks for that. Poor us. Poor, poor us.

Very few BCS programs are more disadvantaged than we are and it shows. It isn't poor us. However, it is reality, we have more obstacles than 90% of the other BCS schools, some of it was brought on ourselves over many years. There is a big difference between making excuses and refusing to recognize the reality of our obviously compromised competitive position currently.
 
I could care less if going to a bowl game now means nothing in the scope of College Football history.

All I know is that the trip to Tempe, AZ was one of the funnest experiences of my life.

Ask any player about the bowl game experience and they will agree.
 
Another idiotic post from someone who thinks ISU should be made to suffer. ISU deserves to go to a bowl if they're invited. Period.

Why don't you go find another team to b**** about. You're a ****ing broken record.

Could not agree more.
 
Why do people care how many bowls there are? Don't think the teams are worth watching...easy, don't watch or don't go. Don't plead for our program to get both it's legs tied up in addition to the two arms we already have to play with tied behind our back. Geez, some of you seem to want to give the most disadvantaged team in the BCS one more hurdle.

Because they are the type of people who go around looking for something to complain about. Thats all there is to it.

I'll never understand why any FB fan would think more football is a bad thing!
 
I think the NCAA should change bowl eligibility to be that to qualify a team must be ABOVE .500, which would mean 7 wins. As much as that would hurt bowl chances, I don't believe in rewarding mediocrity. 6-6 is the definition of mediocrity. It is excellence that should be rewarded. There are WAY too many bowl games.


A 7-5 team can actually be worse than a 6-6 team depending on sos. There are other factors that should be considered for bowl eligibility other than just overall records.
 
I could care less if going to a bowl game now means nothing in the scope of College Football history.

All I know is that the trip to Tempe, AZ was one of the funnest experiences of my life.

Ask any player about the bowl game experience and they will agree.

Amen to that.
 
A 7-5 team can actually be worse than a 6-6 team depending on sos. There are other factors that should be considered for bowl eligibility other than just overall records.

Agreed. Hell, a team like ours, if we go 5-7, is probably as good as some 7-5s
 

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