SMILEY FACE KILLERS

[AlleyAddict]

wow. this is all really childish. can we just quit bashing each other and have an open conversation about the SFK theory again? this whole thing has become about proving each other wrong.

If you dont have anything to contribute to the conversation about the SFK theory, and youre just here

Because it's fun to mess with crazy people on the internet

then please get out

 

[marothisu]

I had a feeling you could prove aliens exist

Sorry, I missed the 't. I can't prove they exist.


Aliens versus a serial killer, something that has known and been proven to exist. What is so unfathomable about someone killing people of the same group (typical serial killer behavior) and then putting the bodies in water within the same three or four states?

I honestly fail to see how that's really as unbelievable as aliens. Mind telling me why with actual reasons besides attacking me?

 

[Mr Janny]

I think we are all ignoring the possibility, nay probability, that the Smiley Face Killers are being organized by one, Keyser Soze. It totally fits his MO.

Also, Kevin Spacey hasn't really been up to much recently...

Just sayin'...

 

[Cyclonesrule91]

I fail to see how SFK relates to alien abductions. I can prove that people kill each other and also that serial killers exist. I can't prove that aliens exist. They aren't even on the same page. It's frustrating someone would actually lump UFOs and aliens in the same picture as a bunch of killings.

To me it shows an ineptness in logical thought to think that this isn't feasible. Aliens, or a serial killer. Isn't there 5-10 serial killers "working" in the US at any given time? What is so unbelievable about a serial killer again?

And what about official reports saying accidental drownings implied they were killings? Unless I am wrong, but haven't the majority of these deaths been ruled "accidental drownings"?

 

[ddisu]

I fail to see how SFK relates to alien abductions. I can prove that people kill each other and also that serial killers exist. I can't prove that aliens exist. They aren't even on the same page. It's frustrating someone would actually lump UFOs and aliens in the same picture as a bunch of killings.

To me it shows an ineptness in logical thought to think that this isn't feasible. Aliens, or a serial killer. Isn't there 5-10 serial killers "working" in the US at any given time? What is so unbelievable about a serial killer again?

We are not debating aliens vs serial killers. We would lose that debate. We are debating sfk. Neither side can prove they do/don't exist. The same with aliens.

 

[IcSyU]

but maybe im just a naive 20 year old.

You really are going to make me point out the obvious, aren't you? :wink:

wow. this is all really childish. can we just quit bashing each other and have an open conversation about the SFK theory again? this whole thing has become about proving each other wrong.

If you dont have anything to contribute to the conversation about the SFK theory, and youre just here then please get out

 

[Angie]

I fail to see how SFK relates to alien abductions. I can prove that people kill each other and also that serial killers exist. I can't prove that aliens exist. They aren't even on the same page. It's frustrating someone would actually lump UFOs and aliens in the same picture as a bunch of killings.

To me it shows an ineptness in logical thought to think that this isn't feasible. Aliens, or a serial killer. Isn't there 5-10 serial killers "working" in the US at any given time? What is so unbelievable about a serial killer again?

The fact that people kill each other and that serial killers exist doesn't mean that it's what's happening here. Correlation does not imply causation. Is it possible? Sure. But "probable" is probably stretching it with the limited amount of actual knowledge that anyone on here has.

 

[AlleyAddict]

when water washes away evidence, as many coroners have said, then what choice do they have other than to rule it an accident?

 

[CyDude16]

But there has been minimal talk about the number of suspicious activity going on in ames as of late. It eery

 

[Angie]

SO that allows them to come into a thread and be complete ******** about people discussing a plausible theory? Theres a fine line between debating and being complete *******, but maybe im just a naive 20 year old.

There are people on both sides who are being contentious - throwing out asterisks, etc. Everyone should probably just settle down - there's no rule anywhere in this thread that says it's only for one side or the other, and there's no need to involve personal attacks.

 

[marothisu]

And what about official reports saying accidental drownings implied they were killings? Unless I am wrong, but having the majority of these deaths been ruled "accidental drownings"?

I forgot the guy's name, but look up the case of a Michigan kid who had the same fate as all of these other people. The official report said he'd been in the water for 20 days, the amount of time he'd been missing.

A board certified coroner from New York State, who has performed over 8000 autopsies in his career, took it up and reviewed the case. He found the report to be incorrect and said the body was in the water for only 3-5 days. He then took all of the original documents to a conference for coroners. He did not tell them which case it was, but that they all take a look at it. 200 of them agreed with him that the body had only been in there for 3-5 days, not 20.

They then presented it to the State of Michigan, which the state refused to reopen the case even though over 200 board certified coroners from the US agreed their autopsy was partially incorrect.

 

[ddisu]

when water washes away evidence, as many coroners have said, then what choice do they have other than to rule it an accident?

Serious question. Many have suggested that something is slipped in the victims drinks. Would that not show up on the autopsy? Does that diminish and eventually remove itself from the system after you are dead?

 

[ddisu]

I forgot the guy's name, but look up the case of a Michigan kid who had the same fate as all of these other people. The official report said he'd been in the water for 20 days, the amount of time he'd been missing.

A board certified coroner from New York State, who has performed over 8000 autopsies in his career, took it up and reviewed the case. He found the report to be incorrect and said the body was in the water for only 3-5 days. He then took all of the original documents to a conference for coroners. He did not tell them which case it was, but that they all take a look at it. 200 of them agreed with him that the body had only been in there for 3-5 days, not 20.

They then presented it to the State of Michigan, which the state refused to reopen the case even though over 200 board certified coroners from the US agreed their autopsy was partially incorrect.

So what if the orginal coroner has done over 15,000 autospsies and he had 1000 other coroners agree with him. Then who would be right?

 

[AlleyAddict]

Serious question. Many have suggested that something is slipped in the victims drinks. Would that not show up on the autopsy? Does that diminish and eventually remove itself from the system after you are dead?

the investigators have said that there are sedatives that won't show up in an autopsy.

 

[marothisu]

Serious question. Many have suggested that something is slipped in the victims drinks. Would that not show up on the autopsy? Does that diminish and eventually remove itself from the system after you are dead?

Zamlen's mother says autopsy leaves questions | Duluth News Tribune | Duluth, Minnesota

"A toxicological screening accompanying Uncini’s report indicate the presence of Gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid [GHB] in Zamlen’s body. GHB is naturally produced in the human body’s cells, but it is also used as an intoxicant. When combined with alcohol, it can lead to dizziness, loss of muscle control and loss of consciousness. Uncini wrote that it couldn’t be excluded that Zamlen ingested GHB before dying. The victim was a diabetic."


GHB is the date rape drug

 

[marothisu]

So what if the orginal coroner has done over 15,000 autospsies and he had 1000 other coroners agree with him. Then who would be right?

That never happened though. We should be debating what actually was found amongst the 200 coroners.


What if 500 detectives said X and Y? What if, it doesn't matter because it never happened. It's just a hypothetical.

 

[ddisu]

That never happened though. We should be debating what actually was found amongst the 200 coroners.

Maybe he didn't do it b/c he was confident in his ablities and the authorities were too. I have people disagree with me in my profession, doesn't mean I am wrong though.

 

[marothisu]

Maybe he didn't do it b/c he was confident in his ablities and the authorities were too. I have people disagree with me in my profession, doesn't mean I am wrong though.

Same here, but usually when they show me facts, I end up agreeing with them if the facts are correct. Anyone can have an opinion. Proving the opinion is the hard part.

If you do something and then 200 people as qualified, or more qualified as you, do the same report and conclude that you messed up...I sure hope you at least listen to them.

 

[AlleyAddict]

good point maroth

 

[isucyfan]

SO that allows them to come into a thread and be complete ******** about people discussing a plausible theory? Theres a fine line between debating and being complete *******, but maybe im just a naive 20 year old.

I'm not sure I made any jokes about the deaths of people, which is sad.

I'm not even sure I made light of the theory. I provided evidence that ran counter to the theory, and don't see why that should bend you outta shape.