Oh no!!! I would hate to hear what Hawk fans think about Cyclone fans! Who cares. The situation is out of the hands of the fans. If you are really that concerned about what Hawk fans think about you and your team, maybe you ought to pick a new one.
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Oh no!!! I would hate to hear what Hawk fans think about Cyclone fans! Who cares. The situation is out of the hands of the fans. If you are really that concerned about what Hawk fans think about you and your team, maybe you ought to pick a new one.
It's possible they want to rule out Sims as a benefactor from the stolen card. He may not have used it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't in on it. I'm not saying he is, and I certainly hope he isn't. I'd rather lose to ISU when they throw their best punch at us than win when they're missing horses.
But when Iowa had their issues with a stolen credit card, I don't think that all the players involved actually used the card. But they did receive plenty of stuff with the card footing the bill. So that may be why there hasn't been any kind of decision one way or the other with Sims.
Just a question...
Was it the same Iowa FB players that got caught with the stolen credit card that also got caught stealing CDs from a mall while awaiting trial? If I remember correctly, they were suspended and finally kicked off after their second run-in with the law.
Was it the same Iowa FB players that got caught with the stolen credit card that also got caught stealing CDs from a mall while awaiting trial? If I remember correctly, they were suspended and finally kicked off after their second run-in with the law.
They were suspended indefinitely for the credit card business, and then they stole CD's sometime mid-season, if I remember correctly. But you are right, they weren't kicked off the team until the CD incident.
He isn't saying that you should really worry about what Iowa fans think of ISU. But he WAS saying that if CPR goes ahead and plays Sims while delaying the legal process (which is an idea that is well-received among some of you), then you have no right to ridicule Iowa for doing the same thing. And a lot of ISU fans are guilty of that. A lot of Iowa fans are no saints, either, don't get me wrong. But you forfeit the right to judge Ferentz and the Iowa program if you endorse delaying the legal process so that Sims can play.
So I guess you guys are saying that ISU has outgrown this one,
And needs to replace it with the one attached below.
No thanks... :no:
I don't think they forfeit that right. The claims are ridiculous anyway and aren't based on anything. Just competitive rivalry talk. It would be like saying Iowa fans shouldn't make fun of ISU when a Cyclone has a run in with the law. You know that will happen as well even though Iowa has more than their share of arrests.
I think there is a line that most coaches won't cross when it comes to playing players who have active court cases going on. The more serious the crime the less chance they play until the case is settled. I think when you start talking about alcohol offenses and less severe cases, most coaches let the scenario play out and lets the justice system do their work. It is important to remember these kids are innocent until proven guilty. Forcing mandatory suspensions on allegations can have damaging results on a kid's career. And then if one of those kids are proven innocent, I would think that's probably a scary legal issue for the schools.
Re: Not a lawyer..
I had one of my credit card numbers and info stolen and it was used for online purchases of about $2000 through WalMart. (A waitress in Portland, OR copied my info down when I used it to pay a bill). WalMart said that the people do this, return the items(usually household goods) to the store without receipt to multiple stores for cash. That's why when you return items to WalMart, they take your ID.
Anyway, when WalMart and my bank asked my to file a police report, the local police(In Rockford, IL at the time), accused me of trying to falsify a theft to get out paying for stuff. Needless to say, WalMart was my biggest friend here who put pressure on the local police dept. and the detective who refused to file a police report, so my bank would credit my purchases and canceling what purchases it hadn't shipped yet to credit my card back instantly. Finally, between WalMart and my next door neighbor who was a cop, the detective finally issued a report.
So, after my experience, in the case of Sims, I am sure the police are real skeptical since its a mommy/son situation.
I had one of my credit card numbers and info stolen and it was used for online purchases of about $2000 through WalMart. (A waitress in Portland, OR copied my info down when I used it to pay a bill). WalMart said that the people do this, return the items(usually household goods) to the store without receipt to multiple stores for cash. That's why when you return items to WalMart, they take your ID.
Anyway, when WalMart and my bank asked my to file a police report, the local police(In Rockford, IL at the time), accused me of trying to falsify a theft to get out paying for stuff. Needless to say, WalMart was my biggest friend here who put pressure on the local police dept. and the detective who refused to file a police report, so my bank would credit my purchases and canceling what purchases it hadn't shipped yet to credit my card back instantly. Finally, between WalMart and my next door neighbor who was a cop, the detective finally issued a report.
So, after my experience, in the case of Sims, I am sure the police are real skeptical since its a mommy/son situation.
This I lived in Eastern Iowa when this happened, people forget they were caught for theft TWICE, suspended the first time and then kicked off the team. This situation is not even close, this is Sims' first run in with the law, plus those two guys were from Detroit who had been in trouble before coming to Iowa.
The guy has never been in trouble before, EVER, first off are you kicking him off the team without all the facts?So I guess you guys are saying that ISU has outgrown this one,
And needs to replace it with the one attached below.
No thanks... :no:
Dont remember their charges, but straight from the Gazette, "Kirk Ferentz is taking a chance on these two guys." I believe it was even a headline.
Ummm...no.
I was referring to the sentiment stated by the two posters I quoted that ISU needs to bend the rules and turn a blind eye to what the players do off the field in order to win games.
I am really interested in the facts regarding those guys having been charged with theft not once, but twice. Reason I am really interested to hear from you is I just looked up D. Douglas as he only has one case of theft in the online courts system.
What I really think is that you are just trying to make us look better than Iowa by making stuff up and throwing it out there hoping many to believe, while throwing others under-the-bus while pretending to be a Cyclone.
Nice try.