I do think we push up a little extra out of our 4 star recruits, which why there’s such strong hype and a lack of criticism around guys like him. (There’s probably a fraction of this board who still think Scates will break out)
Should J. Brock be getting more carries?
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Yes he needs carries, if for no other reason that any opposing DC with 1/4 of a brain knows that when #21 is in the game it's a pass play.
It's like we are scared to run the ball with any one else besides Breece (unless the game is out of reach). We need to be able to hand the ball off when Breece is getting a break.
It's like we are scared to run the ball with any one else besides Breece (unless the game is out of reach). We need to be able to hand the ball off when Breece is getting a break.
I'm going to reserve judgement on Brock until he gets more opportunities to get into a groove. I haven't seen the 'magic' I was hoping to from him yet, but I don't think the necessarily means he doesn't have it. Some guys look great as garbage time/change of pace backs, but fall flat as lead runners, and others don't show what they have until they are the top dog.
Breece didn't show much magic either until he was given significant carries at West Virginia his Freshman year. He's looked like a different runner ever since.
Watch Brock's highlights from HS and all-star games -- he is very sudden and can make dynamic cuts. I don't think we'll have any idea what the 'real' Jirehl Brock will look like stylistically or how good he actually is until next year.
Breece didn't show much magic either until he was given significant carries at West Virginia his Freshman year. He's looked like a different runner ever since.
Watch Brock's highlights from HS and all-star games -- he is very sudden and can make dynamic cuts. I don't think we'll have any idea what the 'real' Jirehl Brock will look like stylistically or how good he actually is until next year.
I think you're onto something. there's some truth to that in football for sure.
Basketball is a different story. We have been more demanding and much less forgiving to our 4 star bball guys who don't hit the ground running fairly consistently.
I doubt that. Brock hasn’t shown anything that he can be the main RB. If I were to bet, I’d say Silas leads the team in rushing yards next year.
Who are we to say it's selfish? You or the player? Oh, you, OK. You're right.
It's up to the player. He can do what he wants and has earned it, whatever he decides. IMO.
I think J. Brock will be terrific next year.
I don’t want to look ahead too much- still lots of season to enjoy with the current team first…but I don’t think we see a massive drop off next year. We have a lot of young guys that are contributing and we’ve seen flashes of what they can do. CMC is building a program- we’ll just reload and rebuild and keep rolling.
I don’t want to look ahead too much- still lots of season to enjoy with the current team first…but I don’t think we see a massive drop off next year. We have a lot of young guys that are contributing and we’ve seen flashes of what they can do. CMC is building a program- we’ll just reload and rebuild and keep rolling.
That’s exactly what he’s doing now.
I don’t have strong feelings on sitting out bowl games, but if your stance is that bowl games don’t matter, why play at all after being eliminated from the playoffs?
I hate to say it, because I respect how J Brock has accepted his role and I want him to get touches, but I agree. Silas has explosiveness and attitude- almost a ‘I dare you to try to stop me’ mindset. He has played well when he’s gotten the chance.
J Brock will get his share, but Silas will probably be the feature. They’ll make a good 1-2 punch.
I was originally replying to someone who said sitting out the bowl game would be selfish and 'crap', I'll support whatever he wants to do, hope he plays in the bowl game but certainly wouldn't hold it against him if he chose otherwise.
If JB was getting unproductive touches when games are undecided there would be a lot of people clamoring about taking the ball out of Hall, Kolar, and X's hands.
I don't see people taking issue when Chase Allen is lined up essentially as an offensive tackle in an unbalanced line set because he's covered up by a receiver. There is almost assuredly zero plays in the book where he could be getting the ball when this happens. But yet we run plays out of these formations.
Players, formations, plays.
I don't see people taking issue when Chase Allen is lined up essentially as an offensive tackle in an unbalanced line set because he's covered up by a receiver. There is almost assuredly zero plays in the book where he could be getting the ball when this happens. But yet we run plays out of these formations.
Players, formations, plays.
So far Brock has looked like a fast FB to me. He has decent speed, but he doesn't even try to make people miss. We will see what he does next year. Maybe he is just needs more snaps.
NFL teams don't penalize players who skip bowls in terms of draft position, so if guys think they'll be more healthy and fresh for combines, workouts, etc. it makes a lot of sense to skip a bowl. But the perception is that skipping regular season games would be viewed negatively by pro teams.
Plus most teams are much more focused on conference championships than the near-impossible task of making the playoffs, so there's a lot to play for until you're officially eliminated in the conference standings.