Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

[Hawkmi1987]

IDK, ask google.

You do understand that in a round Robin format the worse teams in the league has the toughest SOS and the best have the easiest SOS.

They should really start playing themselves to even out SOS.

 

[CyTwins]

IDK, ask google.

You do understand that in a round Robin format the worse teams in the league has the toughest SOS and the best have the easiest SOS.

You just listed all those other teams SOS why don't you list Oklahoma and Texas? That is the definition of trolling

 

[CloneLawman]

I think ragging on a 16 year old kid on a message board because he tweets some dumb **** is way more of a red flag. But, that is just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

In the end, stupid people say stupid things. We know this kid is a Hawk fan, ergo...

 

[CY88CE11]

Not true. This whole thing started because some were claiming that the Big12 and how tough it was lead to the good seeds ISU has gotten over the last few years. I simply said good team and their resume earn he seeds. This seems to upset some I guess, I can't for the life of me figure out why.

Of course SOS is a consideration, but if you think all Big12 conference SOS are better than other schools you are incorrect. Minnesota and Michigan both have tougher conference SOS than Baylor, WVU, and Kansas.

So basically my whole arguement this whole time is there isn't some committee attitudes that since a team is in the Big12 therefore their conference SOS is better than everyone else so we will just bump their seeding up. It doesn't work that way, each team is looked at individually. This is common sense and I can't believe there is any push back at all on this.

 

[BCClone]

This is true. Cashiering a HS boys basketball game ticket booth, I came up $4.75 short. It was a big deal.

How did you come up short an odd number? Never known a booth that charged off dollar amounts.

 

[HawkeyeMashup]

You just listed all those other teams SOS why don't you list Oklahoma and Texas? That is the definition of trolling

So if I don't list a team SOS that didn't even make the NCAA I am trolling? That is weak even for you.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Whar outrage about a college kid talking smack? If Fran's kids in high school should know better then a college sophomore should know better as well.

Lazard just keeps on winning with this tweet.

 

[CyTwins]

So if I don't list a team SOS that didn't even make the NCAA I am trolling? That is weak even for you.

I asked you to list it, you obviously have them at your fingertips because you keep posting the numbers but you won't list the two I ask and tell me to do it. I don't know where you are getting your info and instead of listing it you come off as a ****. Trolling 101

 

[Gunnerclone]

Good for the Big12, they need some deep runs in the NCAA to change the narrative that then Big12 flops in the NCAA. Every year is a new year. I think either Kansas or ISU makes the Elite 8, WVU has a pretty easy path to the Sweet 16, and Baylor will eithe flame out early or make the Elite 8 it seems.

On paper like every year it looks like the Big12 should make multiple deep runs in the NCAA, we will see if this is the year they actually do it.

When I seek out advice on modern NCAA tourney success...I always go straight to a hok fan.

 

[carvers4math]

So I guess Mr. Basketball will be a big ******* deal when Patrick is a senior. Pity the kid who wins it if it isn't him, since it is preordained who deserves it.

 

[NoCreativity]

I agree, but even within the Big12 you got ISU playing the #22 conference SOS vs WVU and Kansas #48 and 49.

Well, yeah, they cant play themselves so naturally the top teams have lower SOS in conference.

I'm really confused on what you are getting at here as we seem to be agreeing with each other.

 

[NATEizKING]

So is the Big12 good if K State makes the NCAA and is bad if K State doesn't even
Make the Nit?

BIG 12 GOOD!

 

[CycloneWarning]

BIG 12 GOOD!

Yea, congrats to KSU.

KSU had a must-win game to make the tourney PIG against ranked Baylor on a neutral court and they got the job done. Now get to enjoy the rewards of the tourney.

Iowa had a must-win game to make the tourney PIG against unranked Indiana on a neutral court and they shat themselves. Now get to enjoy the mediocrity of the Not In Tourney tourney.

 

[Hawkmi1987]

Yea, congrats to KSU.

KSU had a must-win game to make the tourney PIG against ranked Baylor on a neutral court and they got the job done. Now get to enjoy the rewards of the tourney.

Iowa had a must-win game to make the tourney PIG against unranked Indiana on a neutral court and they shat themselves. Now get to enjoy the mediocrity of the Not In Tourney tourney.

 

[YeahBuddy]

Lazard just keeps on winning with this tweet.

Yeah, when I think of a kid who has won 8 games in 3 years and never sniffed a bowl game taking a shot at teams that are playing in high level bowls, I think of "winning".

 

[CyTwins]

So Fran's sons are saying that their AAU teammate paid to win the award? JFC

@YeahBuddy no comment?

 

[HawkeyeMashup]

Well, yeah, they cant play themselves so naturally the top teams have lower SOS in conference.

I'm really confused on what you are getting at here as we seem to be agreeing with each other.

I just need to stop here, as I feel like I am trying to give all the credit to ISU players and coaches and that is pissing people off, they seem to want to credit the conference. If people think I don't understand that a tougher conference SOS helps, I do understand that. I am only saying that each SOS is looked at individually, that you are not "rewarded" some kind of Big12 bump or extra credit. They simply look at individual SOS and some are better than others, even within the Big12.

 

[YeahBuddy]

@YeahBuddy no comment?

I said I have no idea what the hashtag means. Did you not read that?

 

[CyTwins]

I just need to stop here, as I feel like I am trying to give all the credit to ISU players and coaches and that is pissing people off, they seem to want to credit the conference. If people think I don't understand that a tougher conference SOS helps, I do understand that. I am only saying that each SOS is looked at individually, that you are not "rewarded" some kind of Big12 bump or extra credit. They simply look at individual SOS and some are better than others, even within the Big12.

It's not complicated. It is beneficial for your conference members to play well in the non conference. How they do in the tournament is meaningless. Do you seriously not understand that?

 

[HawkeyeMashup]

I asked you to list it, you obviously have them at your fingertips because you keep posting the numbers but you won't list the two I ask and tell me to do it. I don't know where you are getting your info and instead of listing it you come off as a ****. Trolling 101

You say you work at home, I am on a mobile. Just type in RPI into google and I assure you that you can find the answer quickly.