Seemingly never ending Iowa MBB thread (still going.....)

[Bigman38]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Did Rodman or Bird block a lot of shots? They were considered elite defenders. And before you go full ****** and say that I'm comparing Woodbury to them, slow down and read. Those guys were elite defenders on the grandest stages. Woodbury is a good defender in college bball. Blocked shots are only part of the equation. Woodbury is a good interior defender in college bball.

Rodman was 4, Bird was 3. They were good defenders because they did all the things I listed above that Woodbury is at best average at. Do you have anything of substance to add or is just going to be a lot of he's good because I say so type stuff?

 

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Larry Bird was absolutely not an elite defender. That's a terrible argument.

I think you get the point though. I probably stretched saying Bird was elite. He was a three time second team selection for All-Defensive team so certainly no slouch. The point still stands.

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Rodman was 4, Bird was 3. They were good defenders because they did all the things I listed above that Woodbury is at best average at. Do you have anything of substance to add or is just going to be a lot of he's good because I say so type stuff?

I think I saw something where Dingleberry has like 70 rebounds in the last 5 games or something like that.

EDIT: He is averaging 9 RPG in conferecne play. If you don't use this site, it is a great reference source for stats for players, great site:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/adam-woodbury-1.html

 

[Bigman38]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

I think I saw something where Dingleberry has like 70 rebounds in the last 5 games or something like that.

EDIT: He is averaging 9 RPG in conferecne play. If you don't use this site, it is a great reference source for stats for players, great site:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/adam-woodbury-1.html

The post you're quoting was about defense. I've already said that rebounding is the one thing he does well, and provided stats.

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

The post you're quoting was about defense. I've already said that rebounding is the one thing he does well, and provided stats.

Oops, just saw you were saying Dingleberry was bad at defense.

The Hok fans that I know that have ripped on him for 3 years running, are all now singing his praises. He went from being hated to being loved.

 

[CyJack13]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

I think you get the point though. I probably stretched saying Bird was elite. He was a three time second team selection for All-Defensive team so certainly no slouch. The point still stands.

He was about the exact opposite of defender as Woodbury though, Bird was always gambling for steals and blocks. He was constantly trying to jump passing lanes.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Iowa reminds me an awful lot of Wisconsin last year.

Uthoff = Kaminsky
Jok = Dekker
Dingleberry = Hayes
Clemmons = Gasser
Gesell = Koenig

Now I'm not trying to say each individual is a perfect match as being equal, but rather the Wisconsin team was always greater than the sum of it's talents, and Iowa is doing that this year as well.

CySoup is definitely not JonnyDognuts...lol gtfo of here.

 

[Bigman38]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Oops, just saw you were saying Dingleberry was bad at defense.

The Hok fans that I know that have ripped on him for 3 years running, are all now singing his praises. He went from being hated to being loved.

Lowering expectations from expecting a 5 star recruit to expecting him to play like an average center will do that.

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

CySoup is definitely not JonnyDognuts...lol gtfo of here.

I'm comfortable right here. Why don't you just be a good boy and fetch me a drink though.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

I'm comfortable right here. Why don't you just be a good boy and fetch me a drink though.

Weird, pathetic, creepy, with hints of desperation?...definitely NOT dognuts...lol gtfo of here.

 

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Woodbury is the 33 ranked Center in college bball in defensive rating and #17 in offensive rating. To me that is better than average and good.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...&time=0&pos=3&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0

 

[CyTwins]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Woodbury is the 33 ranked Center in college bball in defensive rating and #17 in offensive rating. To me that is better than average and good.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...&time=0&pos=3&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0

That has B+ Monte ahead of Buddy Hield.

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Weird, pathetic, creepy, with hints of desperation?...definitely NOT dognuts...lol gtfo of here.

Well I don't know how to handle you man. I mean no means no, so now I'm trying to deal with your obsession with me with humor.

 

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

That has B+ Monte ahead of Buddy Hield.

The old strawman troll.

 

[CyTwins]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

The old strawman troll.

Cmon man you were trolling when you gave Monte a B+

 

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

Cmon man you were trolling when you gave Monte a B+

So now a B+ is a troll. Monte is a great player, just not sure he has taken the step to A level. I guess everybody's A level is different and we are splitting hairs on that one.

 

[CyTwins]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

So now a B+ is a troll. Monte is a great player, just not sure he has taken the step to A level. I guess everybody's A level is different and we are splitting hairs on that one.

He's a finalist for the best player in the entire country. He's on every award list but you gave him the same grade as Jok who isn't on anything. Monte is one of the most efficient players in the entire country, he's been at the A level for a year now and was second team all conference as a sophomore

 

[iahawks]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

He's a finalist for the best player in the entire country. He's on every award list but you gave him the same grade as Jok who isn't on anything. Monte is one of the most efficient players in the entire country, he's been at the A level for a year now and was second team all conference as a sophomore

I guess you convinced me. I will bump him up to an A. He just seems so passive at times. I guess the game comes easier for him and he makes it look easier than most.

 

[Pitt_Clone]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

So now a B+ is a troll. Monte is a great player, just not sure he has taken the step to A level. I guess everybody's A level is different and we are splitting hairs on that one.

Averaging 15 points per game and being the all time leader in assist to turnover ratio isn't A level? Not even taking into account how clutch he's been at times. There are no hairs to split, and yes you're trolling.

 

[CySoup]

Re: Iowa MBB now a projected #1 seed

I guess you convinced me. I will bump him up to an A. He just seems so passive at times. I guess the game comes easier for him and he makes it look easier than most.

I put right in my grading criteria that an A is all conference player. Monte is clearly that, so yeah a B+ is either a Troll or just an uninformed grade. Please learn to read and follow the rules. Thx.