Second half clinic: Outstanding movement, shot selection, and decision making

ZRF

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Obviously there were a lot of great things to take out of today's win. On the surface it's easy to point out the road win and the fact that it's the first time we've won 2 consecutive conference road games in 9 years. It was against a tournament quality team that was desperate for a win. We finally closed out the first half strong on the road. There was a lot to like.

It took watching the game however, to appreciate the command we had of our offense in the 2nd half. We took 3-4 really bad shots (Niang with a contested 3, Nader with a contested fadeaway, and McKay with a horrendous hook in the pain), but otherwise moved the ball exceptionally well. We drove the lane when the opportunity presented itself;if it was clear to the basket we took the layup/dunk, but if it collapsed we did an excellent job of kicking the ball outside. Niang played within himself and made several good decisions. In particular BDJ was very poised, especially when considering his penchant for poor choices (often in the 2nd half). Outside of Nader who rushed a few shots in the few minutes he played, I thought this was the best composure this team has displayed all year.

Outsiders will point to our 3 point shooting percentage as a big reason we won the game. While the stats indicate it was good, it was more of a product of taking QUALITY, open/in-rhythm 3s rather than the chucking variety this team has the propensity of taking. This offense works extremely well when the team forgoes shots early in the shot clock and focuses on running the offense. If often starts with Monte, but today the entire team executed extremely well.

After a nice run into halftime, the keys were offensive execution, defensive intensity (which has killed us in 2nd half road games), rebounding, and FT shooting. While the team continued it's futility at the line, they played nearly flawless in every other phase of the game. The only negatives in that half? FT shooting (typical), Taylor's penetration (Morris did a poor job of keeping in front of him), and Yancey's 3 point shooting (nothing we could really do about that).

We still need to clean up our end of game execution. The FT shooting is ridiculous and Fred made some pretty big substitution errors down the stretch. With that said it was probably the best example of fundamental basketball that we've seen from this team. Overall it was a job well done.
 
As I posted in the game thread, we were 18-24 from the line in the last 4 minutes. That's 75% and it is unrealistic to expect better than that.

Im curious what you think the substitution errors were?
 
Great road win and fantastic player of the game effort by Matt. Also glad Felix could not hit the broad side of a barn.
 
We had a couple of possessions where Matt was the mismatch for their defense and CFH ran sets for him. Also, when McKay cleared out of the lane to let Georges have room to do his thing, which is sometimes dumping it to another open guy after the drive.
 
Obviously there were a lot of great things to take out of today's win. On the surface it's easy to point out the road win and the fact that it's the first time we've won 2 consecutive conference road games in 9 years. It was against a tournament quality team that was desperate for a win. We finally closed out the first half strong on the road. There was a lot to like.

It took watching the game however, to appreciate the command we had of our offense in the 2nd half. We took 3-4 really bad shots (Niang with a contested 3, Nader with a contested fadeaway, and McKay with a horrendous hook in the pain), but otherwise moved the ball exceptionally well. We drove the lane when the opportunity presented itself;if it was clear to the basket we took the layup/dunk, but if it collapsed we did an excellent job of kicking the ball outside. Niang played within himself and made several good decisions. In particular BDJ was very poised, especially when considering his penchant for poor choices (often in the 2nd half). Outside of Nader who rushed a few shots in the few minutes he played, I thought this was the best composure this team has displayed all year.

Outsiders will point to our 3 point shooting percentage as a big reason we won the game. While the stats indicate it was good, it was more of a product of taking QUALITY, open/in-rhythm 3s rather than the chucking variety this team has the propensity of taking. This offense works extremely well when the team forgoes shots early in the shot clock and focuses on running the offense. If often starts with Monte, but today the entire team executed extremely well.

After a nice run into halftime, the keys were offensive execution, defensive intensity (which has killed us in 2nd half road games), rebounding, and FT shooting. While the team continued it's futility at the line, they played nearly flawless in every other phase of the game. The only negatives in that half? FT shooting (typical), Taylor's penetration (Morris did a poor job of keeping in front of him), and Yancey's 3 point shooting (nothing we could really do about that).

We still need to clean up our end of game execution. The FT shooting is ridiculous and Fred made some pretty big substitution errors down the stretch. With that said it was probably the best example of fundamental basketball that we've seen from this team. Overall it was a job well done.

Your approval means a lot. Make sure to call in to the call in show Monday night and tell Fred how he can improve at his job.
 
How about Fred just move over and you become the head coach? Your criticisms are ridiculous...
 
Obviously there were a lot of great things to take out of today's win. On the surface it's easy to point out the road win and the fact that it's the first time we've won 2 consecutive conference road games in 9 years. It was against a tournament quality team that was desperate for a win. We finally closed out the first half strong on the road. There was a lot to like.

It took watching the game however, to appreciate the command we had of our offense in the 2nd half. We took 3-4 really bad shots (Niang with a contested 3, Nader with a contested fadeaway, and McKay with a horrendous hook in the pain), but otherwise moved the ball exceptionally well. We drove the lane when the opportunity presented itself;if it was clear to the basket we took the layup/dunk, but if it collapsed we did an excellent job of kicking the ball outside. Niang played within himself and made several good decisions. In particular BDJ was very poised, especially when considering his penchant for poor choices (often in the 2nd half). Outside of Nader who rushed a few shots in the few minutes he played, I thought this was the best composure this team has displayed all year.

Outsiders will point to our 3 point shooting percentage as a big reason we won the game. While the stats indicate it was good, it was more of a product of taking QUALITY, open/in-rhythm 3s rather than the chucking variety this team has the propensity of taking. This offense works extremely well when the team forgoes shots early in the shot clock and focuses on running the offense. If often starts with Monte, but today the entire team executed extremely well.

After a nice run into halftime, the keys were offensive execution, defensive intensity (which has killed us in 2nd half road games), rebounding, and FT shooting. While the team continued it's futility at the line, they played nearly flawless in every other phase of the game. The only negatives in that half? FT shooting (typical), Taylor's penetration (Morris did a poor job of keeping in front of him), and Yancey's 3 point shooting (nothing we could really do about that).

We still need to clean up our end of game execution. The FT shooting is ridiculous and Fred made some pretty big substitution errors down the stretch. With that said it was probably the best example of fundamental basketball that we've seen from this team. Overall it was a job well done.
Good Lord, what a twit.
 
As I posted in the game thread, we were 18-24 from the line in the last 4 minutes. That's 75% and it is unrealistic to expect better than that.

Im curious what you think the substitution errors were?


Excellent call out on the FTs. I went back and looked, and we did really well outside the stretch in which we missed 3 in a row. Sometimes things stick out that skew one's perception.

As for the 2nd point, I don't think McKay should EVER be in the game when the other team is in foul mode. That's a situation to put ball handlers and FT shooters on the floor. Put Naz, Nader, Niang, Morris, and Thomas on the floor. Once they get fouled you sub McKay and Hogue back into the game. Hoiberg has been very inconsistent with these types of subsitutions and I have a hard time figuring out why.

McKay has been strides in his FT shooting, but he and McKay can't be in the game after made baskets/Fts. IMO, these have been opportunities (in the past) in which Fred has had the chance to use TOs and optimize his roster with offense/defense substitions.
 
Exactly. Instead of jacking up early shots, we ran our offense. In some cases it was set plays (as you mentioned) and in other cases it was simply making excellent decisions. I thought it was the best half-court execution we've had all year.
 
As for the 2nd point, I don't think McKay should EVER be in the game when the other team is in foul mode. That's a situation to put ball handlers and FT shooters on the floor. Put Naz, Nader, Niang, Morris, and Thomas on the floor. Once they get fouled you sub McKay and Hogue back into the game. Hoiberg has been very inconsistent with these types of subsitutions and I have a hard time figuring out why.

McKay has been strides in his FT shooting, but he and McKay can't be in the game after made baskets/Fts. IMO, these have been opportunities (in the past) in which Fred has had the chance to use TOs and optimize his roster with offense/defense substitions.

Three points: #1)Scoreboard. #2) I think Fred trusts Jameel's free throw shooting and #3) Fred correctly wasn't going to get sucked into burning TOs and offense/defense subs too early just because Barnes stared fouling at the 4:20 mark. He played it just right
 
No need to respond to the one paragraph when he bring sup some good points in the paragraphs before. I watched the game but could not give it my full attention. Three plays stood out:

1. Monte is streaking down the court ahead of his teammates. Thomas had just hit a couple. He sees MT out of the corner of his eye, hits the middle of the lane and hits MT in perfect rhythm for a three. Monte in a nutshell. He just gets the game.

2. Georges sizes up the bigger guy (all of them it seemed), gets him off balance, takes a dribble or two toward the lane and fires a pass across the court to Hogue for a three in rhythm. That's the Georges from last season. Pass first, get the defense on their heels before finishing the hooks and drives later.

3. BDJ, who usually doesn't take his eyes off the rim once he gets past half court with the ball, drives to the basket and actually has a good angle. He likely would have ended up with two free throws if he takes it to the rim. Instead, he ducks under the basket and kicks it out to Naz (I think) for a wide open 3, which of course, he buries.

Those are the plays that define good offense in Hoiberg's system. Unselfish and in rhythm. Georges is coming around and starting to see he doesn't have to force things. Also helps to have Hogue and Thomas as other outside threats besides Naz. Beautiful basketball today. I was impressed with our defensive positioning too although I suspect that has more to do with poor guard play from Texas.
 

Good lord and 4 people liked it!?

I really try to avoid attacking people on here unless they are a hok fan, or a KU fan, and maybe some KSU fans but ZRF, you know nothing about MBB. Or maybe you do but I would not want to watch what your approach would create. Time will tell where CFH ends up the 'elite' scale. If the O/U on a scale of 1-10 were 8, I am all over the over.

You write very nicely though.
 

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