SCOUTING TCU DEFENSE AND OFFENSE

Thanks for the insight. I only got to see TCU play once so far this year and that was the Kansas game.... probably not a great showing on either side of the ball for TCU. Should be an interesting game on Saturday.
 
TCU has given up nine turnovers in the last three games against defenses not as good as ours.
Their Right Cb is weak, given up 3 td'd one each game on his side.
Their punter and long snapper had two bad punts/ fumbles against SMU.
Defense has good lateral pusuit, weak in middle, both Kansas and SMU ran up the middle.
Both SMU and Kansas are 1-3 for the season.
Kansas and Virginia sacked their QB frequently.
Its up to our offense period.
Go Cyclones.
 
I don't think its that simplistic...
-punter/long snapper issues were in a monsoon...
-our QB was not sacked frequently in ANY game...that is a flat out non-truth...
-the same CB was not scored on as you claim...not true...though I wouldn't challenge the claim that he is "weak"...
If the Cyclones come in and think that this team is just a tick above SMU, Virginia, and Kansas...that would not be smart.
 
There will be a buzz on the TCU campus this week, given its their first time hosting a Big 12 game, so lets assume they will be pumped.

There will be absolutely no "buzz" on campus this week b/c all of TCU's students are home on fall break, the stadium will be pretty empty on saturday.
 
Interesting username going with owning the big 12 and predicting 7-5 or 8-4, haha. Thanks for the insight.
 
Interesting username going with owning the big 12 and predicting 7-5 or 8-4, haha. Thanks for the insight.
Perhaps he is thinking more long term and has been applying visualization principles he learned from watching "The Secret".
 
Thanks for the update.

I have only watched part of one of TCU's games.

I could not get past how carelessly they carried the football. They were treating it like a loaf of bread.

There will be a ton of forced fumbles. I am sure Wally scheduled a couple extra ball stripping drills this week after watching their tape.
 
When looking at the SMU game remember it was a rivalry game played in a monsoon. Don't read anything from that game.
 
The fumbles/turnovers are definitely a problem for the Frogs and could get exposed even more this week against a very good defense. Now that Matthew Tucker (starting RB) isn't 100% and we could see back-up QB Trevon Boykin as a tailback...I am even more worried about the fumbles.

I think it is going to be a close, ugly defensive-minded game...but I am not a purple kool-aid drinker so I wil fully admit that you all could blow us out of the water if a few things fall your way. This is a true pick 'em game if I ever saw one.

Go Frogs!
 
TCU had no trouble moving the ball up and down the field against Kansas. They really ran into struggles once they got the ball in the redzone. All of a sudden they couldn't run the ball and they couldn't call the deeper passing plays that they love to run between the 20's. They also turned the ball over a couple of times in the redzone as well.

On defense Kansas was able to gash TCU with the running game. That opened up the passing game and KU was able to hit on a couple of deep throws. Kansas was able to move the ball fairly well against TCU until they got in the redzone. Once Kansas got inside the 20 TCU locked them down and Kansas wasn't able to move the ball at all.

They R Us. Yeah, a game between the twenties on Saturday.
 
Definitely agree with this. That's why I'm really hating the Jantz trashing after this game.
-Tech has a great D
-Oline was terrible
-WR were locked up

Really don't think Barnett would have made much of a difference.
So what do you expect for the next five games if that is who we are? We need to do something different. Maybe hire an outside consultant play caller.
 
I'm feeling more and more confident about this game as the week moves on. Maybe I'm the only one, but I think we will be able to run against these guys. Farniok said the TT game was the worst they have played as a unit. I believe we can score on this defense and running the ball well only helps Steele. The run game was what was missing against TT. We need it to move the ball. Hopefully Steele can make the correct reads!
 
TCU's leading rusher, Waymon James, is out for the season due to an injury at Kansas. TCU's running attack left with James and now the Frog offense has become one-dimensional. The only experienced backup RB (Tucker) hurt his ankle against SMU last week and is a game time decision. These injuries have forced Patterson to plug in a dual-threat backup QB (Boylin) at RB. Boykin is pretty electric but he's also the #2 QB on the team and exposing him to injury so early in the season would be a desperate act.

TCU backup Trevone Boykin might provide depth at running back | Dallas-Fort Worth Sports News...
 
Having to gameplan for what would essentially be a 2 QB system would make things more interesting for the D, that's for sure. I wonder how Wally would shut that down.

Luckily our defensive front 7 are pretty solid, since havng a second QB in at running back would prevent our D-backs from coming up for run support until one of them had carried the ball over the line of scrimmage.
 
Having to gameplan for what would essentially be a 2 QB system would make things more interesting for the D, that's for sure. I wonder how Wally would shut that down.

Luckily our defensive front 7 are pretty solid, since havng a second QB in at running back would prevent our D-backs from coming up for run support until one of them had carried the ball over the line of scrimmage.

I imagine they'll have a couple plays that could involve the back-up QB passing, but I can't think they'll get too far away from their normal offensive schemes.
 
Hey Cyclones! It seems that your fanbase hasn't seen a ton of TCU football--which is understandable--so here are a few random thoughts about the Frogs for y'all to digest.

First and foremost, as a poster mentioned, this team is YOUNG--in fact, it is the youngest in the Patterson Era and is tied with LSU and Ohio State for playing the most freshmen in 2012. With that being said, there is a ton of talent--but, overall, they have underperformed as opposed to playing above their heads (which was a hallmark of Patterson-led teams of the past few years).

I think the offense is better than what you have seen and what the stats say...but the defense is a bit worse than what you have seen and what the stats say. This team is probably a 7-5 team in the Big 12...8-4 would be wonderful but I am having a hard time seeing the 8th win.

***SNIP***

Overall, I think you will see a TCU team that plays markedly better than the first 4 games--but it will still be a sloppy slugfest. The homer in me has TCU winning 20-13...but its anyone's guess with this team.

Thanks for the breakdown and guys to watch. I have seen all or significant parts of three of TCU's games thus far, including the entire KU game. Overall, I wasn't very impressed and saw nothing that indicated a Top15 team. That ranking shows a LOT of respect (well-earned and deserved) for your program. I think there's quite a bit of speed in the receiver corps and on defense, and that's a concern for me. I like your defense quite a bit, more so in the LBs and secondary than the DL, though and that gives me some hope that we will be able to do something on the ground.

I was not impressed at all with the OL and that makes Paschall much more like an average QB than a world-beater. I give a distinct edge to ISU's DL over that OL and that could be a big factor in the game. I think TCU is going to have a hard time consistently moving the ball on the ground and pass protecting Paschall.

On the downside for us, we will struggle mightily if TCU follows the standard defensive strategy that most have figured out since Rutgers, that is stack the box and make Jantz beat you through the air. TCU's defense is at least as good as Tech's in my opinion, perhaps not quite as good on the DL. Will they play as inspired and angry as Tech?

I could see a defensive struggle as some have mentioned. Probably why it won't happen. We're way overdue for an offensive explosion and I think (hope?) the offense will respond coming off a week where everyone is questioning their manhood and ability. I hope they come out and play like they are PO'd. This is not going to be a physical mismatch, so we should play with a little abandon on the road. Their backs are against the wall and I hope they find their mojo, because I think TCU is overrated and ripe for an upset.
 
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TCU's leading rusher, Waymon James, is out for the season due to an injury at Kansas. TCU's running attack left with James and now the Frog offense has become one-dimensional. The only experienced backup RB (Tucker) hurt his ankle against SMU last week and is a game time decision. These injuries have forced Patterson to plug in a dual-threat backup QB (Boylin) at RB. Boykin is pretty electric but he's also the #2 QB on the team and exposing him to injury so early in the season would be a desperate act.

TCU backup Trevone Boykin might provide depth at running back | Dallas-Fort Worth Sports News...
If GMFP was serious, which most of us doubt, he would be 3rd behind Dean and Catalon.

James' injury was courtesy of all that crappy field turf you guys use in the Conference. That one hurt. Tucker being gimpy hurts as well. He is a horse with speed. Dean is a bruiser with good speed. Catalon is a true frosh with speed and quickness. Hopefully he breaksout. Highly touted.
 
I imagine they'll have a couple plays that could involve the back-up QB passing, but I can't think they'll get too far away from their normal offensive schemes.

I agree. It isn't like they have practiced with him there all season. IMO if he plays you may see one or on the outside two plays utilizing him in some sort of QB related capacity after lining up at the RB slot.

If GMFP was serious, which most of us doubt, he would be 3rd behind Dean and Catalon.

James' injury was courtesy of all that crappy field turf you guys use in the Conference. That one hurt. Tucker being gimpy hurts as well. He is a horse with speed. Dean is a bruiser with good speed. Catalon is a true frosh with speed and quickness. Hopefully he breaksout. Highly touted.

What do you mean "you guys"?
* You are in the conference too now Bucko.
* ISU has a natural turf field.
 
If GMFP was serious, which most of us doubt, he would be 3rd behind Dean and Catalon.

James' injury was courtesy of all that crappy field turf you guys use in the Conference. That one hurt. Tucker being gimpy hurts as well. He is a horse with speed. Dean is a bruiser with good speed. Catalon is a true frosh with speed and quickness. Hopefully he breaksout. Highly touted.

Last season Tech lost 2 RBs and 1 WR to season ending knee injuries thanks to the painted parking lot Mizzou calls a field. Nothing in the Big 12 now even compares.
 

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